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Old 11-22-2011, 08:51 AM
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A "Ban" ? Really?!?!? Maybe someone who takes this **** so ****ing seriously that they would even suggest a "Ban" should be banned for not having a life. Do you for 1 nanosecond thing that he wishes the guy was REALLY SHOT?
So everything is just a joke or a jab? I think people who say anyone should be shot are themselves off their rocker for joking about injuring or potentially killing someone. And maybe those who sympathize with them as well...you think I'm crazy, I think you're crazy.

You could have a conversation about the racecall if you wanted, but RHT's comment is inappropriate.
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:27 AM
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I've had some race calls after which I'd gladly have shot MYSELF. This was not one of those. I was more than happy with the call, trying to touch as many bases as possible, with "Everest in his veins" on the backstretch to some semblance of respect to Zenyatta and Pepper's Pride at the finish. The only thing I regret was getting a little caught up in the moment at the finish and forgetting to mention who ran second and third. Thirty lashes for that.
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:34 AM
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"Everest in his veins"
David Wells syringe?
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:42 AM
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David Wells syringe?
Actually, I borrowed the line from a song, substituting Rapid Redux for Edmund Hillary.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:04 AM
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A Rapid Redux VS Drosselmeyer match race at 8.5 furlongs...

If I owned either horse -- I'd take that silly match-race in a heartbeat.

You could promote it like a boxing match... The current all-time win streak king VS the last out Breeders Cup Classic winner.

and RR would have such a huge pace advantage that it would certainly be a very interesting looking race turning for home... Drosselmeyer is so poorly suited to a match race and Rapid Redux would certainly be able to run a 90+ Beyer with no early and middle pressure.

Get some slots track in the Mid-Atlantic to put up a six figure purse... as brutal as these Eclipse voters are ... the winner of this silly event might be able to steal Champion Older Male.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:47 AM
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I can understand being caught up in the moment of losing a bet in a race and making the comment that a particular jock should be shot...Hell, I am guilty of that. But to make a comment that a race caller (someone that has no outcome in a race)should be shot...I just don't get it.

But, then again, I am completely biased towards Peter and Mountaineer Park. I am a big fan of both.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:58 AM
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A Rapid Redux VS Drosselmeyer match race at 8.5 furlongs...

If I owned either horse -- I'd take that silly match-race in a heartbeat.

You could promote it like a boxing match... The current all-time win streak king VS the last out Breeders Cup Classic winner.

and RR would have such a huge pace advantage that it would certainly be a very interesting looking race turning for home... Drosselmeyer is so poorly suited to a match race and Rapid Redux would certainly be able to run a 90+ Beyer with no early and middle pressure.

Get some slots track in the Mid-Atlantic to put up a six figure purse... as brutal as these Eclipse voters are ... the winner of this silly event might be able to steal Champion Older Male.
If you're the connections of Drosselmeyer, what would be the incentive for this? It's a lose/lose regardless of the outcome.

If you lose the race, you lost to a vastly inferior horse. If you win, you beat a vastly inferior horse. Trust me, there is no glory for beating a terribly outclassed opponent.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:01 AM
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If you're the connections of Drosselmeyer, what would be the incentive for this? It's a lose/lose regardless of the outcome.

If you lose the race, you lost to a vastly inferior horse. If you win, you beat a vastly inferior horse. Trust me, there is no glory for beating a terribly outclassed opponent.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:18 AM
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If you're the connections of Drosselmeyer, what would be the incentive for this? It's a lose/lose regardless of the outcome.

If you lose the race, you lost to a vastly inferior horse. If you win, you beat a vastly inferior horse. Trust me, there is no glory for beating a terribly outclassed opponent.
I think it would be a fun match-up -- and it would give the sport some attention during the most dull racing month of the year... December.

As for incentive for Drosselmeyer's connections -- Drosselmeyer has twice competed in ungraded 60K stakes this year -- a six figure purse to race against a 5k starter horse in a race that is good for the sport -- against a horse some writers have already said they would vote Horse of the Year.

The eclipse vote for champion older male is going to be split so thin between horses like Acclimation, Tizway, Flat Out, Cape Blanco, Game On Dude, and others ... Drosselmeyer would probably steal all the Rapid Redux votes.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:08 PM
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If you're the connections of Drosselmeyer, what would be the incentive for this? It's a lose/lose regardless of the outcome.

If you lose the race, you lost to a vastly inferior horse. If you win, you beat a vastly inferior horse. Trust me, there is no glory for beating a terribly outclassed opponent.
Unless your name is you know who...then you are called one of the all time greats
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
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Actually, I borrowed the line from a song, substituting Rapid Redux for Edmund Hillary.

Hey I feel like I need to apologize to you on here also. A lot of other people saw what I said and I was wrong. What I said was way out of line. Again I apologize.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:27 PM
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Hey I feel like I need to apologize to you on here also. A lot of other people saw what I said and I was wrong. What I said was way out of line. Again I apologize.
No worries.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:52 AM
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I've had some race calls after which I'd gladly have shot MYSELF. This was not one of those. I was more than happy with the call, trying to touch as many bases as possible, with "Everest in his veins" on the backstretch to some semblance of respect to Zenyatta and Pepper's Pride at the finish. The only thing I regret was getting a little caught up in the moment at the finish and forgetting to mention who ran second and third. Thirty lashes for that.
I didn't see anything wrong with your call. I enjoyed your enthusiasm.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:30 PM
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I've had some race calls after which I'd gladly have shot MYSELF. This was not one of those. I was more than happy with the call, trying to touch as many bases as possible, with "Everest in his veins" on the backstretch to some semblance of respect to Zenyatta and Pepper's Pride at the finish. The only thing I regret was getting a little caught up in the moment at the finish and forgetting to mention who ran second and third. Thirty lashes for that.
I just was hoping to get the PP/Zen reference to the filly... looking back at my post, I did call you a tool - that was unfair and unwarranted - I don't even know you.... My apologies & keep up the great work.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:50 PM
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Before he was known for training Rapid Redux:




Rapid Redux is 18-for-18 this year -- and 2-for-2 last December ... so, this 20 race win streak with a former 5K claimer was achieved in less than one year time.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:25 PM
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Here's a great win streak from a horse who shipped all over... and certainly had more super fast races over his career than Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Man O' War combined.

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Old 11-22-2011, 01:38 PM
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1:20 flat in the Malibu...Woah.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:12 PM
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1:20 flat in the Malibu...Woah.
How about 1:57.4 in The Strub?
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:37 PM
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Here's a great win streak from a horse who shipped all over... and certainly had more super fast races over his career than Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Man O' War combined.

At 15 different tracks...
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:43 PM
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Those pps never cease to amaze me.
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