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Old 11-30-2011, 09:32 PM
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Also, bet you dollars to doughnuts that if LSU wins this weekend and Okie State figures out a way to really play strong against OU that the voters figure out a way to tighten up the divide between Ok State and Alabama. Maybe not enough to avoid the rematch like 2006 and 2007, but a lot closer than one would think.

Alabama is absolutely a great team, but their actual body of work just doesn't match up with Oklahoma State this year in terms of quality of opponents.
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Also, bet you dollars to doughnuts that if LSU wins this weekend and Okie State figures out a way to really play strong against OU that the voters figure out a way to tighten up the divide between Ok State and Alabama. Maybe not enough to avoid the rematch like 2006 and 2007, but a lot closer than one would think.

Alabama is absolutely a great team, but their actual body of work just doesn't match up with Oklahoma State this year in terms of quality of opponents.
Ok State lost to Iowa State. Bama lost to LSU.
Bama beat Arkansas and outplayed LSU in a loss. Ok State, seriously?
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:28 AM
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Ok State lost to Iowa State. Bama lost to LSU.
Bama beat Arkansas and outplayed LSU in a loss. Ok State, seriously?
Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion
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Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion
Wisconsin would beat OK ST right now.
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Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion
The beauty of the NFL is you can get away with a bad game.
LSU has not palyed a bad game, Bama has not played a bad game and those teams play the best teams all year long.
The common opponent argument is often ignored and probably rightly so based on the any given day theory. As long as LSU wins this weekend (likely even if they lose) they should play Bama for the title.
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The beauty of the NFL is you can get away with a bad game.
LSU has not palyed a bad game, Bama has not played a bad game and those teams play the best teams all year long.
The common opponent argument is often ignored and probably rightly so based on the any given day theory. As long as LSU wins this weekend (likely even if they lose) they should play Bama for the title.
Who did Arkansas beat? they got crushed by bama and lsu. So why are they any better than WI who lost 2 fluke games at the end and crushed all their other opponents? You could say Arkansas best wins were Auburn (there was a reason why russell wilson chose WI over Auburn) and South Carolina(who beat no one really besides GA by 3 at the begininng of the year). Arkansas ranked 8 in BCS and WI is 15th. Makes total sense right?
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