Scuds - Your boy Weaver

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Inconsistent... no different than another Dodger- Derek Lowe. And Brad Penny for that mater. I respect any guy that could pitch for a lowly Tigers squad for a few years and pitch .500 baseball for them. That says something. Same with Suppan in St Louis. He pitched for Kansas City for so many years. On horrible squads. But he managed to be a .500 pitcher for those teams. I think that goes fairly far.

You wanna take me up on that 15 game bet scuds? I'm not rollin in the dough now, but 1 year from now I will be lol.

Here,read the f'n box score of his wonderful start for us in the 2004 playoffs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=241007124

"Weaver gave up six runs on eight hits in 4 2-3 innings. Weaver worked around two walks in the first when he struck out Edmonds for the final out. He had another shaky inning in the second and the Cardinals capitalized, with the first run scoring on Weaver's wild pickoff throw to first.With two outs, Tony Womack hit an RBI triple off the right-field wall and Larry Walker followed with a run-scoring double just inside the first-base line for a 3-1 lead."

This is the guy I remember.Hey,all I am saying is the St. Louis ' coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for getting this guy to do what he should have been doing all along(but was too sloppy to understand,and concentrate on technique.)He cleaned up his record during garbage time of the 2nd half of last season.There was zero stress.The team was way behind in the standings.He took the Halos for a bunch of dough.He may of had a .500 type record for us,but I am telling you that he was given a situation where he should have won a bunch more games for us.Quite simply he was sloppy,and simply caught way too much of the plate.The Dodgers take a lot of heat for not winning a playoff game since God knows when,but look at guys like Weaver that were f'n gas cans starting for us in the post.Then you try and tell me he wasn't.Believe me this guy got hit,and hit,and hit.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playby...l&refresh=null

Here is the exact play by play of the way he pitched for us when it really counted.This is the Weaver we knew.Not pretty.Enough of the bull****.

[timmgirvan]

Scuds: I shuddered every time it was Weavers' turn to pitch,both when a Dodger or Angel...but someone in St. Louis found the key! I dispute that Weaver padded his stats this season in the 'dog days'.....the Cards were falling like a rock and needed every inning and win that Weaver gave them! As I said before, What did the people on the Socal teams miss? or did they just give up on him too soon?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Scuds: I shuddered every time it was Weavers' turn to pitch,both when a Dodger or Angel...but someone in St. Louis found the key! I dispute that Weaver padded his stats this season in the 'dog days'.....the Cards were falling like a rock and needed every inning and win that Weaver gave them! As I said before, What did the people on the Socal teams miss? or did they just give up on him too soon?

Maybe he hit bottom,and started doing what guys had been telling him to work on for a long time.Timm,do you remember this guy's temper ? Not exactly the easiest guy to teach a new trick.Hey,all I know is the guy was getting way to much of the plate,and simply kept doing that.I saw one of those old pitches from him in his start in Detroit.Somebody put that one out in a hurry.I am not surprised that Dodgers couldn't get him to stop throwing fat pitches.I would think the Halos could have turned him around though.Surprised Black or others couldn't get him turned around before he basically torched the Halos season with 10 or so losses.