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Old 11-01-2011, 09:06 AM
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Interesting stuff, thanks Doug.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:20 AM
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This is very interesting, thanks for sharing. Just curious, but why are you against Turbulent Decent? The price will be short and I can see looking for value, but I don't see much wrong with what she has done this year.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:04 AM
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This is very interesting, thanks for sharing. Just curious, but why are you against Turbulent Decent? The price will be short and I can see looking for value, but I don't see much wrong with what she has done this year.
She hasn't done much wrong this year -- but she's hardly much (if any) better than say a Champagne D' Oro was as a 3yo last year. Looking over her season...

She failed to crack a 90 Beyer in both of her two SA races this winter. She beat an attrocious field in the Beaumont in a race she couldn't lose on paper. They made her 3/5 in the Acorn and she was no match for It's Tricky. Her Test win was good .. but she got a textbook perfect trip --- and though she was wide that day... Thoro-Graph had that as a dead-rail day.

TD has never faced older horses -- I don't mind the fact that she's been laid up since August .. but it tells you her connections think her one real good figure in the Test might have took something out of her. When I go race-for-race on established form -- Switch is a better horse IMO. There are a lot of others in there who TD is close with who are 20/1 or so on the ML. I will hope the rest wasn't what the doctor ordered.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:32 AM
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I think #9 Pure Gossip (12:1ml) is a must use in the Juvy filly turf.

I also think Grace Hall will out finish MMA in deep stretch.
With some bomb like Putthebabiesdown or Say a Novena well back in 3rd.

In the F&M Sprint, Tanda will be a great horse to play Pick 3's into...she will go off around 8:1. I like Musical Romance, at a huge price, to key on underneath.
Her connections always cause her to get lost on the board. This is the one race where I am really going to go nuts betting exotics.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:33 AM
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I disagree about Northern Passion's pedigree for dirt. . . I wouldn't say she'll move up on it, but I could see her handling it--especially with the fact that Casse opts to go here. Her dam's a full to Canadian ch. 2yo filly Ginger Gold, a MSW on dirt and second in the GI Selene S. over surface and distance. I also don't think Northern Passion has a turf action. I think there's a sneaky horse in this race if it collapses, and Northern Passion's that horse.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:57 AM
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I disagree about Northern Passion's pedigree for dirt. . . I wouldn't say she'll move up on it, but I could see her handling it--especially with the fact that Casse opts to go here. Her dam's a half to Canadian ch. 2yo filly Ginger Gold, a MSW on dirt and second in the GI Selene S. over surface and distance. I also don't think Northern Passion has a turf action. I think there's a sneaky horse in this race if it collapses, and Northern Passion's that horse.
This is a good betting race. I can see a nice price coming in on this one.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:07 AM
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Agree with trying to beat Turbulent Descent. In addition to Switch and Tanda, I like Musical Romance and Great Hot as exotic possibilites.

But in the juvy Fillie Turf, I'm not read to toss Somali Lemonade just because of her post.Didn't Pluck win from way outside last year in the Juvy Turf race at the same distance?
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:18 AM
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Agree with trying to beat Turbulent Descent. In addition to Switch and Tanda, I like Musical Romance and Great Hot as exotic possibilites.

But in the juvy Fillie Turf, I'm not read to toss Somali Lemonade just because of her post.Didn't Pluck win from way outside last year in the Juvy Turf race at the same distance?
Somali is a deep closer, Im not sure the post hurts her that much.
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:11 PM
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If I play this sequence, it'd be:

Secret Circle
Dear Lavinia, Elusive Kate, Northern Passion, Pure Gossip, Somali Lemonade
Pomeroys Pistol, Turbulent Descent
My Miss Aurelia
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:22 PM
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I agree with Calzone on TD. Too many questions as a likely short price. Switch looks like the obvious alternative. I'm looking for some sort of potential bomb underneath in this race as nce you get by the top 2 or 3 it's very wide open.

In the JFTurf, I'll keep Dayatthespa in the mix for exotics. Her Natalma from post 11 was not bad at all and she showed some rating gear sprinting at Saratoga in her debut. Chad Brown has plenty of experience at the big dance an Ramon rides.
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