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Old 10-29-2006, 01:47 AM
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I like Jara and am a big Jazil fan but I think a monkey could have ridden Jazil, who runs between 24 and 25 seconds every two furlongs regardless of the length of the race, to victory in the Belmont.

right. you're ridiculous. if a monkey rode jazil, they would have ended up with the trip steppenwolfer had.

sorry, jara was brilliant that day when a vet absolutely ****ed steppenwolfers race.....ill take the smart jockey over the veteran idiot any day
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:20 AM
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right. you're ridiculous. if a monkey rode jazil, they would have ended up with the trip steppenwolfer had.

sorry, jara was brilliant that day when a vet absolutely ****ed steppenwolfers race.....ill take the smart jockey over the veteran idiot any day
I would be fine backing this assessment if steppenwolfer had actually WON a significant race before or after the belmont.

Face it- the horse is a plodder and the trip really had very little significance in the result.

As for Jazil, i commend Jara's patience on belmont day, but he had the best horse plain and simple. There was no brilliance to the ride.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:25 AM
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I would be fine backing this assessment if steppenwolfer had actually WON a significant race before or after the belmont.

Face it- the horse is a plodder and the trip really had very little significance in the result.

As for Jazil, i commend Jara's patience on belmont day, but he had the best horse plain and simple. There was no brilliance to the ride.
i think jaras ride on angara several months back indicated his ability to hold it together. i don't think he so much as twitched, and she got up for the win...i don't think jara would be a weakness at all.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:18 AM
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I would be fine backing this assessment if steppenwolfer had actually WON a significant race before or after the belmont.

Face it- the horse is a plodder and the trip really had very little significance in the result.

As for Jazil, i commend Jara's patience on belmont day, but he had the best horse plain and simple. There was no brilliance to the ride.
until the belmont, jazil hadn't won a significant race either. and he won the belmont because jara gave him a ride with patience beyond his years.

steppenwolfer was in a great spot for a plodder in that race, it was setting up perfectly for him, and then he got wrangled back. i'm hardly the only one who thinks that the trip was atrocious and killed any chance for him.

jara has been brilliant in big races so far, he never moves too early with invasor, he has been perfectly patient on angara and jazil.

i'll take him any day, especially when people continue to see him as a liability -- just a better price for me.
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