BC Classic after 6 furlongs based on pace figures

[Calzone Lord]

I think Headache is the one horse who has run a lot of races that are better than looked on paper.

I just can't imagine how he's going to pass 10 horses and make up 10 or so lengths on the final four furlongs... but he won't be stopping.

Flat Out is the only horse I think you can trust in regard to a top 3 finish.

[Indian Charlie]

These projections seem unrealistic.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

These projections seem unrealistic.

Why?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Why?

I think THAS, FO and HDG will likely be further back then those projections indicate.

Probably ST as well.

Maybe I'll feel differently once the PPs are released.

[Calzone Lord]

The Jockey Club Gold Cup was a much faster paced race than a lot of people think. For 10fs at Belmont -- they were cooking.

I know Vol Jack and some other people thought that was a speed biased track -- maybe it was or maybe it wasn't -- but in a couple later races it impacted the way jocks rode their horses.

Same thing with Havre De Grace's Beldame that day -- Life At Ten was on a suicide mission and Royal Delta was moved insanely pre-mature. Havre De Grace -- as a result -- ran dragged into running faster than she prefers.

[MisterB]

If things go the way they should, Mo won't hit the board. He is a nice horse, but stretching out, against cut backs normally fall short. A good bet against here. ML fav is a joke.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by MisterB

If things go the way they should, Mo won't hit the board. He is a nice horse, but stretching out, against cut backs normally fall short. A good bet against here. ML fav is a joke.

You don't think Uncle Mo will be the favorite? I do because I think the public will make him it. Do I think he deserves to be the favorite? I don't but that is not what the line makers job is.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The Jockey Club Gold Cup was a much faster paced race than a lot of people think. For 10fs at Belmont -- they were cooking.

I know Vol Jack and some other people thought that was a speed biased track -- maybe it was or maybe it wasn't -- but in a couple later races it impacted the way jocks rode their horses.

Same thing with Havre De Grace's Beldame that day -- Life At Ten was on a suicide mission and Royal Delta was moved insanely pre-mature. Havre De Grace -- as a result -- ran dragged into running faster than she prefers.

It was a merry go round track all day.

I would have booked any bet on Trappe Shot that day. He had no shot on that track.
I also bet my guts out on Force Freeze, thinking he would get the lead.
Cornhole on Giant Ryan was hellbent on getting the lead and Paco Lopez on FF was happy enough to sit in 2nd.
They ran that way around the track.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I think Headache is the one horse who has run a lot of races that are better than looked on paper.

I just can't imagine how he's going to pass 10 horses and make up 10 or so lengths on the final four furlongs... but he won't be stopping.

Flat Out is the only horse I think you can trust in regard to a top 3 finish.

This is like Stately Victor all over again. Do you have a man-crush on Maker?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

This is like Stately Victor all over again. Do you have a man-crush on Maker?

He also trained Further Land now that you mention it.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

He also trained Further Land now that you mention it.

I like his longshots on synthetic better than other surfaces.