Giacomo = No chance

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Originally Posted by miraja2

None taken. As for who will win......I have no clue!!!! Personally I would not mind an entire thread about each of the horses in a big race like the classic. What if someone did want to start a thread that was all about Super Frolic's chances? What would be wrong with that? Maybe there are people who would argue that he has a chance to hit the board, and want to make their case and argue with the rest of us. That would be fine with me.
And by the way, I didn't just say that he would not win....I said he would not hit the board. Still not a tremendously bold statement I know.....but slightly bolder than you gave me credit for.

By the way repent......great signature.

thanks man.
and i was just agreeing with scuds statement b/c we get alot of threads about who will not win.
my comments were not really specific to anything you typed.

agree, i just dont see Giacomo as having done anything to suggest that he can be competitive in a race like this.
he has no shot.

Bernardini is going to have to fall on his face to lose,
unless David Junior moves way up on dirt.
thats the only scenario I can see where Bernardini could be in a serious fight.
GW could move up 10 lengths on dirt and it still would not put him on Bernardini's level.
best of luck to you in this race.
Im staying away from it except in the late pick 4 and I will single Bernardini in the pick 6 most likely.


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[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by repent

agree, i just dont see Giacomo as having done anything to suggest that he can be competitive in a race like this.
he has no shot.

Bernardini is going to have to fall on his face to lose

I can see it all now "...and Bernardini stumbles leaving the gate...he went right down on his nose..." People keep saying stuff like that and just watch it actually happen. If you have a dream about Castellano falling off whatever you do don't breathe a word to the jock for pete's sake. We all saw what happened to Shoemaker.

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I have already stated that I will quit gambling for 3 years if Giacomo wins the BC....I like gambling so I am not going to make one of those ridiculous ones, but if he does win, not a penny will go through any type of windows until BC 2009.....

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Originally Posted by Scav

I have already stated that I will quit gambling for 3 years if Giacomo wins the BC....I like gambling so I am not going to make one of those ridiculous ones, but if he does win, not a penny will go through any type of windows until BC 2009.....

hes is pretty much one of the top 5 overmatched horses of the day.
you gambling future is safe. no worries.

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[Scav]

Originally Posted by repent

hes is pretty much one of the top 5 overmatched horses of the day.
you gambling future is safe. no worries.

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Thanks Repent, after today, i would rather have him win the thing under wraps

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Originally Posted by Scav

Thanks Repent, after today, i would rather have him win the thing under wraps

lol,
well at least you are not jerry who lost 5K or whatever on Cambiocorsa.lol


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I probably should not talk though.
Im the guy who loaded up on Grey Swallow last night.
I still think he is plodding down the final furlong as I type this 20 hours after the race went off.

I hope he was injured b/c that was just a painfully slow performace.


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[Scav]

Originally Posted by repent

lol,
well at least you are not jerry who lost 5K or whatever on Cambiocorsa.lol


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He is full of it, he didn't lose 5k on that rat....

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I can see it all now "...and Bernardini stumbles leaving the gate...he went right down on his nose..." People keep saying stuff like that and just watch it actually happen. If you have a dream about Castellano falling off whatever you do don't breathe a word to the jock for pete's sake. We all saw what happened to Shoemaker.

lol,
maybe.

but this is such an athletic horse that it does not matter.
stumbling, bad break, whatever...............he would seriously have to fall down to compromise his chances of winning.
he could break dead last and it would not concern me one bit.

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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

thanks man.
and i was just agreeing with scuds statement b/c we get alot of threads about who will not win.
my comments were not really specific to anything you typed.

agree, i just dont see Giacomo as having done anything to suggest that he can be competitive in a race like this.
he has no shot.

Bernardini is going to have to fall on his face to lose,
unless David Junior moves way up on dirt.
thats the only scenario I can see where Bernardini could be in a serious fight.
GW could move up 10 lengths on dirt and it still would not put him on Bernardini's level.
best of luck to you in this race.
Im staying away from it except in the late pick 4 and I will single Bernardini in the pick 6 most likely.


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i disagree that david junior has to 'move way up on dirt', he just has to handle it like he does the turf.
bernie would definitely be a 'bet against' here, as his odds will do nothing to inspire a bet come race day--and of course any horse can have an off day. you can find value in this race just like many others. obviously he would be used in any pick 4's and 6's....

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i disagree that david junior has to 'move way up on dirt', he just has to handle it like he does the turf.
bernie would definitely be a 'bet against' here, as his odds will do nothing to inspire a bet come race day--and of course any horse can have an off day. you can find value in this race just like many others. obviously he would be used in any pick 4's and 6's....

if DJ had been winning on turf the way Falbrav was in 2003, then I would agree with your analysis Zeig.

Falbrav's 2003 turf form was on par Bernardini's 2006 dirt form.

but DJ has been beaten in Europe this year and althought impressive, not dominant the way Bernardini has been here.

I will disagree with you here while maintaining a ton of respect for DJ.
He is the only horse that concerns me at all when singling Bernardini in the pick 6(which I think is likely to be the case for me).


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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

if DJ had been winning on turf the way Falbrav was in 2003, then I would agree with your analysis Zeig.

Falbrav's 2003 turf form was on par Bernardini's 2006 dirt form.

but DJ has been beaten in Europe this year and althought impressive, not dominant the way Bernardini has been here.

I will disagree with you here while maintaining a ton of respect for DJ.
He is the only horse that concerns me at all when singling Bernardini in the pick 6(which I think is likely to be the case for me).


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i thought D jr was unbeaten this year??

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i thought D jr was unbeaten this year??

no,
he lost the POW at Ascot.

hes only run 3 times this year.
the Dubai Duty Free, the POW, and the Eclipse.


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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

no,
he lost the POW at Ascot.

hes only run 3 times this year.
the Dubai Duty Free, the POW, and the Eclipse.


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i haven't seen anything on him since they said he was training up to the cup...wonder how he's doing anyway?? i think several others have a better shot than him here, i don't think he's the second coming of giant's causeway.

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i haven't seen anything on him since they said he was training up to the cup...wonder how he's doing anyway?? i think several others have a better shot than him here, i don't think he's the second coming of giant's causeway.

all reports are that he is doing good.
he likes the "all weather" track over there, but we have heard that before with such BCC duds as Starcraft before.

I like the horse.
I like Bernardini more.


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[repent]

Originally Posted by repent

no,
he lost the POW at Ascot.

hes only run 3 times this year.
the Dubai Duty Free, the POW, and the Eclipse.


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and Zeig,
Im not disrespecting DJ here.
I hope nobody thinks that.
im his biggest fan and thought he was the best 10f horse in England(better than OBoard and Electro).

but I do feel he would need to be even better on dirt than he was on turf to beat Bernardini.

whats cool is that all these Euros are gambling and running on the dirt this year.
I wish Falbrav's connections had done the same in 2003.
if there was ever a BCT horse that should have run in the BCC, that was it.


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