Occupy Wall Street

[Riot]

In NY they are working with local churches, union halls, etc. where they can stay safe out of the cold, and work out of there for short shifts of protesting.

They can't stay outside, they'll get hypothermia.

Although I guess that will draw attention to the homeless we normally let die in the cold every year across the country.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Although I guess that will draw attention to the homeless we normally let die in the cold every year across the country.

Thankfully, at least in the US, it's a very small number. In Chicago there are more people murdered in a day than the homeless who die of hypothermia in a year. Of course Chicago does an excellent job with warming shelters and actually going out and finding the homeless.

I hope the millions and millions who receive heating and housing subsidies in this country are appreciative.

Compared to the rest of the world we should be proud!

While a majority of the poor in the world battle starvation, the poor in the US battle obesity.

Again, sometimes one needs to stop and smell the roses. We are blessed/lucky to live in this country, (especially the poor).

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

In Chicago there are more people murdered in a day than the homeless who die of hypothermia in a year.

Go ahead and post where you got that stat from.

[geeker2]

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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by geeker2

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Thanks, I think?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Thanks, I think?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Go ahead and post where you got that stat from.

Seven hundred people experiencing or at risk of homelessness are killed from hypothermia annually in the United States. Forty-four percent of the nation’s homeless are unsheltered. From the urban streets of our populated cities to the remote back-country of rural America, hypothermia - or subnormal temperature in the body - remains a leading, critical and preventable cause of injury and death among those experiencing homelessness.

http://www.nationalhomeless.org/fact.../How_Many.html

Couldn't find specific stats for Chicago but in 2003 19 people died of hypothermia in Chi-town but that included people with homes as well. Admittedly that would be an extraordinarily high number for murders in a day.

I do know approximately 1,000 people in the U.S. are struck by lightning per year so at least in America, your chances of getting struck by lightning are greater than dying of hypothermia due to being homeless or at risk of being homeless. Something to be proud of.

In early 2007, the National Alliance to End Homelessness reported a point-in-time estimate of 744,313 people experiencing homelessness in January 2005.

700 dead per year seems like a big number but knowing that represents less than one in ten thousand, especially when considering the mental state and chemical addictions of many of the homeless, makes me think we're doing a hell of a job caring for them.

And it's private charities not the government who are caring for these folks, with a fraction of the money. Because like any other business/activity the private sector performs far better than D.C. could even dream of.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

http://www.nationalhomeless.org/fact.../How_Many.html

Couldn't find specific stats for Chicago but in 2003 19 people died of hypothermia in Chi-town but that included people with homes as well. Admittedly that would be an extraordinarily high number for murders in a day.

I do know approximately 1,000 people in the U.S. are struck by lightning per year so at least in America, your chances of getting struck by lightning are greater than dying of hypothermia due to being homeless or at risk of being homeless. Something to be proud of.

700 dead per year seems like a big number but knowing that represents less than one in ten thousand, especially when considering the mental state and chemical addictions of many of the homeless, makes me think we're doing a hell of a job caring for them.

And it's private charities not the government who are caring for these folks, with a fraction of the money. Because like any other business/activity the private sector performs far better than D.C. could even dream of.

In other words, when you said, "In Chicago there are more people murdered in a day than the homeless who die of hypothermia in a year" you were just making it up.

Dell wrote: 700 dead per year seems like a big number but knowing that represents less than one in ten thousand, especially when considering the mental state and chemical addictions of many of the homeless, makes me think we're doing a hell of a job caring for them.

Yes, Dell. That's why all those folks are joining Occupy Wall Street. Because there are so many jobs, that the number of homeless are actually decreasing, not increasing as every organization thinks (as they run out of beds and food pantries out of food, and the number of mentally ill on the street increase, and a record number of people are on food stamps), and we are taking such good care of the starving and homeless in this country. According to you.

The nation’s homeless population increased by approximately 20,000 people from 2008 to 2009 (3 percent increase). There were also increased numbers of people experiencing homelessness in each of the subpopulations examined in this report: families, individuals, chronic, unsheltered.

God knows how many more homeless were created between 2009 and 2011 due to foreclosures and unemployment.



ttp://www.endhomelessness.org/content/article/detail/3668

National Alliance to End Homelessness: State of Homelessness in America 2011

Geeshus effing cripes. God save this country from itself and it's blind ignorance.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

In other words, when you said, "In Chicago there are more people murdered in a day than the homeless who die of hypothermia in a year" you were just making it up..

No actually I was going on recollection and came pretty damn close.

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, Dell. That's why all those folks are joining Occupy Wall Street. .

What a couple thousand? Yea that's huge!

They got a couple hundred in Chicago. More people show up for a pee wee football game.

Originally Posted by Riot

Geeshus effing cripes. God save this country from itself and it's blind ignorance.

You're right God Save this country but from the people that allow this to occur. Like the piece of crap in the following story, it's time to grow up and stop the f'n whining. Want a job? Look in the want ads. Don't want to work? Starve. It may have saved this guy's woman.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=all#pagebreak

[dellinger63]

Give credit where it's due:

In Jan 2005 the National Alliance to End Homelessness reported 744,313 and as of 2009 that number had decreased to 656,129 of which 61% were sheltered (403,308).

We shelter, feed, heat and support far more than that, including people here illegally, including extended members of the President's family. Instead of demanding more give praise to all we aready do. We are and always have been the most generous nation on earth, period! So again stop your whining!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You're right God Save this country

I don't think the Invisible Honey Badger in the sky gives a $hit.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No actually I was going on recollection and came pretty damn close.

Yes, in your imagination.

What a couple thousand? Yea that's huge! They got a couple hundred in Chicago.

Hey, "couple hundred" in Chicago, or a couple thousand, all the same in Dell's mind

You're right God Save this country but from the people that allow this to occur.

Like those that want all the societal benefits of living in America, especially the freedom to complain about groups they don't like, but don't want to contribute a damn thing to the country?

There are no homeless, no unemployed, no uninsured: and if they are, it's entirely their own damn fault. Right Dell?

Evening news right now in Lexington Ch 27: a story about 1 in 5 people currently living in poverty in Lexington, KY, the amount of heating assistance available to the poor this winter has been decreased by over a million dollars, severe worry about increased deaths from hypothermia this winter because of all the poor people that will have to be kicked off heating assistance this winter.

But it's all their fault, and the churches will help them. "We" don't have to worry about those lazy folk.