Palmer to Raiders

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It's amazing, but if they were willing to give up 2 #1 picks, I bet that they could have done much better than Carson Palmer. Not that I'm a huge fan, but you would think that Dallas would have to give that package some serious consideration for Tony Romo.

I am a cowboys fan and would happily take that deal.

[Clip-Clop]

Why not just start Pryor, he is eligible now and has worked out with the team.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Why not just start Pryor, he is eligible now and has worked out with the team.

I honestly was thinking the same thing, on 2nd thought it looks like he wasnt even eligible to practice with the team, he could only be in team meetings. So I can see why they were scrambling to find a QB

[somerfrost]

Palmer could still have something left...at least he won't have to deal with a pair of self-centered, over-rated WR's.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Why not just start Pryor, he is eligible now and has worked out with the team.

Seriously? Pryor makes Tebow look like Joe Montana.

[Cannon Shell]

I think people are overreacting about this trade. Think about it for a second. We are talking about the Raiders number 1 picks that are now Bengals number 1 picks. Based on the recent draft history of both teams they will pretty much be wasted regardless of who makes the selections.

[dalakhani]

What is a starting QB worth in the NFL? What is a starting QB worth to a potential playoff team in the NFL? What is a 31 year old former all pro starting QB worth to a franchise that hasn't been to the playoffs in nearly 10 years?

Time will tell if this was a good trade for either team. For cincy, it was a no brainer. For the raiders, making the playoffs would make it seem worth it to me.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

they should called Vinny Testaverde for one more shot at glory

Vince Evans

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Palmer could still have something left...at least he won't have to deal with a pair of self-centered, over-rated WR's.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think people are overreacting about this trade. Think about it for a second. We are talking about the Raiders number 1 picks that are now Bengals number 1 picks. Based on the recent draft history of both teams they will pretty much be wasted regardless of who makes the selections.

Besides Palmer's declining mobility and arm strength, the Raiders just need someone to manage and not give it away Rex Grossman style.
Wonder if he would have enough zip to get the ball to Ford and Moore.

Now....Now....Al Davis has passed.....I'm sure the Raiders can now draft sensibly. Obviously we won't know until the 2013 draft.

[Danzig]

amazing what dying does for a mans reputation. al davis the last few years was a laughingstock...now he's remembered as a football genius and legend.

at any rate, palmer is past his prime, but still better than anything else available for a desperate team.
raiders overpaid, but they have their reasons i guess.

as for rex grossman, he's now on the bench-beck gets the start. will anyone notice? i tried to enjoy the skins while they were doing well, as i figured it wouldn't last. nfc east is up for grabs, who figured that going in?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think people are overreacting about this trade. Think about it for a second. We are talking about the Raiders number 1 picks that are now Bengals number 1 picks. Based on the recent draft history of both teams they will pretty much be wasted regardless of who makes the selections.

Dalton and AJ Green aside. Bengals also have quite the D, did they come off the unemployment line? Good ole Chuck being the contrarian for the sake of being the Contrarian. its been reported that the Bengals didnt move Palmer previously because they didnt recieve the required 2nd round pick they demanded for him. This says something about the Raiders, how do you go into the season with a backup QB that you have such a lack of confidence in?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dalton and AJ Green aside. Bengals also have quite the D, did they come off the unemployment line? Good ole Chuck being the contrarian for the sake of being the Contrarian. its been reported that the Bengals didnt move Palmer previously because they didnt recieve the required 2nd round pick they demanded for him. This says something about the Raiders, how do you go into the season with a backup QB that you have such a lack of confidence in?

ask the colts that one!

the raiders tried to get someone who had been available at the right price...plus, they needed a backup for their qb-which is now palmer, this gives them two again til campbell returns.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dalton and AJ Green aside. Bengals also have quite the D, did they come off the unemployment line? Good ole Chuck being the contrarian for the sake of being the Contrarian. its been reported that the Bengals didnt move Palmer previously because they didnt recieve the required 2nd round pick they demanded for him. This says something about the Raiders, how do you go into the season with a backup QB that you have such a lack of confidence in?

Yes the Bengals and Raiders owe thier tremendous success over the last decade to great 1st round choices. Andre Smith, Keith Rivers, Chris Perry, David Pollack, Akali Smith, Peter Warrick are all fairly recent gems for the Bengals who have exactly one 1st rd pick starting for that vaunted defense.

I dont think that doubting a potential poor 1st round selection by the management of the Bengals or Raiders qualifies as a contrarian view. Rather it would seem to be close to expected.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously? Pryor makes Tebow look like Joe Montana.

More tongue in cheek than anything else, it seemed like the Raider thing to do.
I like Tebow, if for no other reason you can be pretty sure he isn't raping women in his free time.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am a cowboys fan and would happily take that deal.

I asked a Cowboy fan I work with the same question and he said he would do it in a heartbeat as well.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am a cowboys fan and would happily take that deal.

romo's biggest problem is he's always been over-rated. he's no worse now than he ever was. but he, much like his team, is picked each year to do something more. what i don't get is why people feel that the team or the qb will do better.
insanity-doing the same thing expecting a different result.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

romo's biggest problem is he's always been over-rated. he's no worse now than he ever was. but he, much like his team, is picked each year to do something more. what i don't get is why people feel that the team or the qb will do better.
insanity-doing the same thing expecting a different result.

Yup. I never liked the guy from day one. Makes a few big plays while running for his life (and that was when they had an amazing line and running game) and everyone pegged him as something he wasn't. I want Jimmy Johnson back.