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View Poll Results: GIO PONTI.. Hall of Fame?
Yes.. Hall of Famer 46 60.53%
No.. Didn't win the ones that put him over the top 17 22.37%
Maybe.. Let's see how his career finishes 13 17.11%
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:48 AM
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Con-At best he stands in line behind Curlin and the three (maybe four) filly/mares in that same time frame.
He's ahead of Ghostzapper in line?
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:49 AM
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Never mind -- you said same time frame -- give me an F in reading comp.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:56 AM
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Manila is certainly top 3 turf horses I've seen in my lifetime (well, racing lifetime, since around 84).

I have no idea how it took so long to get him in the HOF. Well, I do, because people are generally idiots, but still.

As I said before, GP in the HOF? *&@% *#
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Manila is certainly top 3 turf horses I've seen in my lifetime (well, racing lifetime, since around 84).

I have no idea how it took so long to get him in the HOF. Well, I do, because people are generally idiots, but still.

As I said before, GP in the HOF? *&@% *#
Part of the delay with Manila -- and many other deserving horses/trainers/jocks -- was the quirky way the HOF was admitting candidates..
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:05 PM
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I put Gio Ponti in the Medaglia D'oro category. Was a good race horse and won its share of big races, but never really won when it counted and when faced with the absolute best.
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I put Gio Ponti in the Medaglia D'oro category. Was a good race horse and won its share of big races, but never really won when it counted and when faced with the absolute best.
Never won when it counted? Two Shadwells, the Manhattan, two Man O' Wars, the Kilroe, the Arlington Million, those don't 'count'?
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:38 PM
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Manila is certainly top 3 turf horses I've seen in my lifetime (well, racing lifetime, since around 84).

I have no idea how it took so long to get him in the HOF. Well, I do, because people are generally idiots, but still.

As I said before, GP in the HOF? *&@% *#
If you had been live at Tampa Bay Downs 2 years ago like I was to see his epic battle waged against Karelian you'd ............................................feel exactly the way you do now.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:07 PM
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If you had been live at Tampa Bay Downs 2 years ago like I was to see him get herded 20 paths wide down the stretch by Homeister on Karelian you'd ............................................feel exactly the way you do now.
Hey Seth,

FTFY

To date, the absolutely worst non-takedown I've ever seen
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:11 PM
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Hey Seth,

FTFY

To date, the absolutely worst non-takedown I've ever seen
Now I remember, you had a bit of riding on that outcome. Oops.
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Now I remember, you had a bit of riding on that outcome. Oops.
It's amazing the stuff you can remember like it was yesterday when it costs ya a hefty P4 payout ... lol....
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Hey Seth,

FTFY

To date, the absolutely worst non-takedown I've ever seen
How about Powerscourt in the BC, That horse hit everything but Mrs. Crabtree in the Clubhouse(she was in ladies room doing a blast)
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:34 PM
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How about Powerscourt in the BC, That horse hit everything but Mrs. Crabtree in the Clubhouse(she was in ladies room doing a blast)
Freddy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDHXAij8EIk

Unfortunately the pan shot doesn't do it justice, if you can get the head on, it's brutal.

The beauty of this replay is listening to Grunder call Karelian "Curly Ann" throughout the race... luv mah boy
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If you had been live at Tampa Bay Downs 2 years ago like I was to see his epic battle waged against Karelian you'd ............................................feel exactly the way you do now.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:08 PM
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English Channel won 6 Grade 1's -- including the BC Turf -- and thankfully no one thinks he deserves consideration.

Though -- he was better than Gio Ponti and Better Talk Now.
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"... and Gio Ponti is the leader....

Interpatation trying to come back at him...

With one furlong to go...

Interpatation is a stubborn foe...

GIO PONTI HAS LOST THE LEAD!

GIO PONTI HAS LOST THE LEAD!"



I don't care either way... I'm just still so happy I got to live through that and didn't imagine it!

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English Channel won 6 Grade 1's -- including the BC Turf -- and thankfully no one thinks he deserves consideration.

Though -- he was better than Gio Ponti and Better Talk Now.
... and Kev in three..... two...... one....
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