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Old 09-15-2011, 07:25 PM
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Poor guy... I hope he'll be okay.

Attfield, looking for his first Northern Dancer score, has Simmard but Musketier, who was scheduled to represent the barn, has been sidelined.

“He colicked last night,” said Attfield, on Thursday morning.“He’s in a holding pattern now, at the clinic. They’re hoping they don’t have to operate.

“He’s had soundness issues but he’d never had a sick day in his life, since I’ve had him.”.


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Old 09-16-2011, 07:59 AM
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Damn. I hope he pulls through. Thanks for the link.
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:09 PM
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I'm pulling for #7 Riding the river in the Mile. He'll be a huge longshot. Like Dave Cotey; these are the same connections who ran then sold Mine that Bird after his Grey stakes win. I'm sure they would have loved to win the Derby but they did alright by him.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:46 PM
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I'm pulling for #7 Riding the river in the Mile. He'll be a huge longshot. Like Dave Cotey; these are the same connections who ran then sold Mine that Bird after his Grey stakes win. I'm sure they would have loved to win the Derby but they did alright by him.
Good luck!

Wow the Canadian is just a fantastic betting race.

I'm going to try to just focus on Woodbine this weekend. This is what i have so far... (cause I know you all wanna know).

Sat...

R8, Candy Bull
R9, Making Amends
R10, (my lock) Artie Hot

Sunday...

R5 (Canadian)...3,7,10 (no really.. Magic Broomstick, Woolly Bear, Hooh Why)/2,3 4 6 7,10,11,12,13,14

R8 (Northern Dancer)...
Wigmore Hall, Hotep exacta box
tri...4/1/2,5
(Wigmore Hall to win even though the odds will be nada)

The Mile... going back and forth with Side Glance and Right One so at this point if nothing else will throw both on top of a tri and use Woodbourne (sentimental win bet) and Grand Adventure with Hollinger, Courageous Cat, and Court Vision underneath. Will probably play Side Glance to win as well.

Good luck everyone and apologies in advance cause if for some reason Woodbourne manages to upset the alignmnet of the planets and wins? You all will hear me screaminbg from wherever you are.
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Old 09-18-2011, 05:27 PM
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They're running the TVG Woodbine coverage on Sports South. Woodbine Mile about to go...
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Old 09-18-2011, 05:56 PM
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I know Woodbine is sooo progressive, good for bettors blah blah blah. But can someone explain to me why they place big races so poorly on their cards? It can't be a good idea to break up the big stakes with these terrible claimers/Ontario bred races. An all-stakes PK3 would generate way more handle.
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:04 PM
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Quite a ride by Jaime Spencer on Dance and Dance. It was like he tried to find trouble.
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:08 PM
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I know Woodbine is sooo progressive, good for bettors blah blah blah. But can someone explain to me why they place big races so poorly on their cards? It can't be a good idea to break up the big stakes with these terrible claimers/Ontario bred races. An all-stakes PK3 would generate way more handle.
People like me, who rarely play Woodbine unless its a big race like today will only focus on the three major stakes races. Since its spread out from race 5 to race 10, I am forced to handicap 6 to 8 races if I am playing the pick4. and rolling pick 3s. If they had put the races together back to back to back I will only handicap 3-5 races. On track, the people will stick around longer to watch all 3 stakes races 3 hours as opposed to 1.5 hours with 3 big races together.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:07 PM
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I know Woodbine is sooo progressive, good for bettors blah blah blah. But can someone explain to me why they place big races so poorly on their cards? It can't be a good idea to break up the big stakes with these terrible claimers/Ontario bred races. An all-stakes PK3 would generate way more handle.
You should contact Jim Bannon and ask him about this. He's one of racing's good guys and I imagine he could offer you their perspective.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:59 AM
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But can someone explain to me why they place big races so poorly on their cards? It can't be a good idea to break up the big stakes with these terrible claimers/Ontario bred races. An all-stakes PK3 would generate way more handle.
So poorly? It CAN'T be a good idea? All stakes P3 = WAY more handle?

Woodbine generated record handle for Sunday's Woodbine Mile card (been running since 1997). The way I see it, the split gives you a reason to pay attention to the claimers/Ontario breds. If it was only an all-stakes p3, you know exactly when to tune in.

They are a progressive organization and I guarantee you they have run the projections for keeping all the stakes together versus keeping them separate, and discounting the handle differences. They are that good.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:14 PM
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Congrats to anyone who did well today.

Thrilled Wigmore Hall had such a nice win but basically as far as capping I sucked big time.

I think Woodbourne was last...

Oh well.

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I'm pulling for #7 Riding the river in the Mile. He'll be a huge longshot. Like Dave Cotey; these are the same connections who ran then sold Mine that Bird after his Grey stakes win. I'm sure they would have loved to win the Derby but they did alright by him.
Saw this and thought of you...

http://www.tripledeadheat.ca/2011/09...-and-into.html
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