8/20 (SAR): Alabama S. (G1); Lake Placid S. (G2)

[GPK]

I understand that not all races are "fairly run", but on a fairly run race, Winter Memories has zero problem at all with Hungry Island. A trained chimp could also see that Ramon absolutely made sure that Winter Memories was not gonna have an easy time of it today.

Oh well, I'm in the same camp as Joey, I will take her against any turf filly/mare in the country.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

I understand that not all races are "fairly run", but on a fairly run race, Winter Memories has zero problem at all with Hungry Island. A trained chimp could also see that Ramon absolutely made sure that Winter Memories was not gonna have an easy time of it today.

Oh well, I'm in the same camp as Joey, I will take her against any turf filly/mare in the country.

We can only hope that the people who think she's over-rated bet with both fists next time she runs.

[cakes44]

Which 3-year-old do you take: Wait a While or Winter Memories?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by golfer

We can only hope that the people who think she's over-rated bet with both fists next time she runs.

She'll probably be odds-on again next time. . . Hopefully Hungry Island is in the race too. I like Winter Memories--a lot--her last race was amazing, but you can't deny that her reputation has gotten a little out of hand.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

She'll probably be odds-on again next time. . . Hopefully Hungry Island is in the race too. I like Winter Memories--a lot--her last race was amazing, but you can't deny that her reputation has gotten a little out of hand.

I guess it all depends on where you are sitting. Perhaps in the industry, her reputation was over the top, but where I sit, she is what she is, the best 3 year old turf filly in the country who for a variety of reasons ran poorly today.

At least we don't have to worry about Jimmy Toner ducking competition, and only running her in easy spots. She will either cement her standing, or unravel it over the next few months, but I believe we're dealing with cement.

[Danzig]

congrats to shug and co!

[Dahoss]

I'm a big fan of Winter Memories the horse as well as her human connections, so I hope she bounces back.

As far as the top 3 year old turf filly in the country, has anyone seen Summer Soiree's two turf races this year? She won despite her rider yesterday. He'll get her beat eventually with rides like that, but she's been very, very good since getting on turf.

[NoLuvForPletch]

The track on 10/3 at Belmomt would make the course today seem like they were running on Union Ave itself, so I would be surprised if it was the condition of the turf. Being down inside during the late stages of the race didn't help. Lezcano rode her like his body and brain had been taken over by Diane Nelson. He was in a jackpot the whole way around.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm a big fan of Winter Memories the horse as well as her human connections, so I hope she bounces back.

As far as the top 3 year old turf filly in the country, has anyone seen Summer Soiree's two turf races this year? She won despite her rider yesterday. He'll get her beat eventually with rides like that, but she's been very, very good since getting on turf.

I see where Motion is pointing Summer Soiree to the QEII. He says the BC Filly and Mare Turf is not a likely start.