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Old 08-14-2011, 09:57 AM
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Given the names of the connections, Vladamir Kazakov owns and Gennadi Dorochenko trains, I can connect the dots from Lexington to Poland.
Uh huh.. Having a Polish last name, I was able to make that connection too. Who are these guys and what's the back story?
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:22 AM
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PHUCK POLAND!

"Each year, around 30,000 horses are exported from Central and Eastern Europe for slaughter in Italy, France and Belgium in what can fairly be described as one of the cruellest and least regulated aspects of Europe’s live animal trade. Poland is the biggest exporter of live horses for slaughter in Europe. Ten years ago there were one million horses in Poland but that number has now been reduced to 500,000."

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Old 08-14-2011, 10:36 AM
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europe doesn't quite view horses like we do, with certain breeds existing solely as a source of food..much like some of our breeds of cattle over here. i think it's gross. but no doubt they disagree.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:49 AM
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Uh huh.. Having a Polish last name, I was able to make that connection too. Who are these guys and what's the back story?
http://www.barntowire.com/2011/APnotes110503.html

Prior to Arlington I think he was racing at Mountaineer as Doug pointed out and doing very well win wise.
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:29 PM
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Uh huh.. Having a Polish last name, I was able to make that connection too. Who are these guys and what's the back story?
They are Russians, not Poles, and both owner and trainer are former jockeys.

You'll find out all about him this weekend in the DRF when Marcus Hersh writes a DRF Weekend piece about him...which was interestingly assigned before the stakes race win.

Outside of his own racing entity, and Kazakov, Dorochenko's other main owners are Mongolian, and trawl around the AP front side to watch works in the morning, chain smoking and speaking Russian as if they just came off the steppe.
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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I remember that even Beyer kicked himself (in his post race column) for not putting something on War Emblem in the Derby. He had found enough reasons to NOT bet him, despite the big BSF.

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Old 08-16-2011, 06:33 PM
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Here's a textbook example of the usefulness of Beyer Figures finding value ... this was a case where a horse who was truly 'the most likely winner' in the entire field on paper went off at 15/1.

Today's 2nd race at PID.




http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20110816&RN=2


#6 Sunshine Bernie is 6-for-57 lifetime -- but 2-for-2 lifetime on synthetic -- and more importantly 2-for-2 lifetime at PID.

So -- Sunshine Bernie is 2-for-2 here (wins at 10/1 and 3/1) and just 4-for-55 everywhere else.

The Winning Beyer Par for 16K claimers at PID is 78. No horse in the field had run better than a 77 last time out. So, obviously, we know it's going to take something in the 77-to-78 range to win this.

Sunshine Bernie exceeded par at PID in both races -- running an 82 and 79. But both races occured in the year 2009.

He made 20 total starts in 2009 -- in his 18 away from PID he never ran a figure better than 74. In his two at PID he ran 79 and 82. So, obviously, he loves PID.

Now, the important part, has Sunshine Bernie improved or regressed since 2009 when he ran those two races?

2009: 3 figures before PID races - 69, 68, 69 -- 3 figures after his two PID races 71, 43, 74

2011: Last 3 figures before todays race: 73, 80, 70


It's crystal clear that this horse is better in 2011 -- than in 2009 when he ran those two winning races that exceeded winning par in his only two tries.

Cold exacta was $141.40 -- Sunshine Bernie is now 3-for-3 here (wins at 10/1, 3/1, and 15/1) and 4-for-55 everywhere else.
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