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Old 10-26-2006, 12:23 PM
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NYRA has a deal with MGM. They are all set, the NY lottery is what is holding up the slots. Please, for someone who is so "fact" orientated, you sure are wrong....A LOT
I stated that in the post above.


The Facts are simple. If the crooks at NYRA are going to still insist they own the land the tracks are on, they will get nothing and be gone soon enough.

Why is a non-profit so concerned over whether or not they own the land or not?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:32 PM
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Great news for the NYRA. More importantly, great news for racing in general. It appears that most meets throughout the country are up with a few exceptions. The fact I like is the number of starters was up 5.3%. This is huge. The number of starters per race has also increased from track to track meet per meet. This is good news for the industry as well.

New York has the best racing in the world throughout the year. But I think Spitzer is gung ho on getting rid of them (NYRA). They know how to put a good product on the track but there is no denying the corruption inside the NYRA by some people. I am also confused as to why they are always losing money. Apparently, they have a bad business model. Imagine how GREAT New York racing COULD be in they had someone in there that not only knew how to put a great product on the track but also knew how not to lose money. Maybe the NYRA can figure that out.

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Old 10-26-2006, 12:53 PM
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They know how to put a good product on the track but there is no denying the corruption inside the NYRA by some people.
WHO are these corrupt individuals that you claim there is " no denying " exist???

WHO are they? We need to know, since apparently they exist in this absurd internet world, and nobody can actually find them in the flesh.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:04 PM
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WHO are these corrupt individuals that you claim there is " no denying " exist???

WHO are they? We need to know, since apparently they exist in this absurd internet world, and nobody can actually find them in the flesh.
I dont know the names of the people. Now dont be splitting hairs here, you know as well as I do that there was corruption in NYRA. Not saying it was something to get all ruffled up over--but it was there. I am just curious as to why they are always losing money and are always wanting the State to bail them out.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:08 PM
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I dont know the names of the people. Now dont be splitting hairs here, you know as well as I do that there was corruption in NYRA. Not saying it was something to get all ruffled up over--but it was there. I am just curious as to why they are always losing money and are always wanting the State to bail them out.
Yes, there WAS corruption there, and the individuals responsible are now gone and the situation has been cleaned up to the absolute satisfaction of Eliot Spitzer and Alan Hevesi.

However, you said there is " no denying the corruption inside the NYRA by some people " which implies there continues to be corruption there. If you are going to make these slanders be prepared to back them up. If this isn't what you meant then you should be careful how you word such accusations.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:14 PM
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Yes, there WAS corruption there, and the individuals responsible are now gone and the situation has been cleaned up to the absolute satisfaction of Eliot Spitzer and Alan Hevesi.

However, you said there is " no denying the corruption inside the NYRA by some people " which implies there continues to be corruption there. If you are going to make these slanders be prepared to back them up. If this isn't what you meant then you should be careful how you word such accusations.
Well perhaps you shouldnt be so sensitive while reading posts. I dont think I ever said that "currently there is corruption" or "right now, there are corrupt people"......I just said corruption, which exsisted so therefor my statement was accurate.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:23 PM
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Well perhaps you shouldnt be so sensitive while reading posts. I dont think I ever said that "currently there is corruption" or "right now, there are corrupt people"......I just said corruption, which exsisted so therefor my statement was accurate.
Whether or not I am being sensitive doesn't change a certain responsibility in making comments. Your comments would suggest that you believe that corruption currently exists at NYRA and that this was basically obvious. These are two beliefs that I do not agree with and feel strongly should only be made if one can specifically back them up. Frankly, I expect idiocy from that other poster here, as she probably has trouble with Velcro, but you do know better. You have every right to not like NYRA, or any organization you so choose, but by the same token you have a certain responsibility in your claims, especially those kinds, and vagueness is not a reasonable defense.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:31 PM
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Yes, there WAS corruption there, and the individuals responsible are now gone and the situation has been cleaned up to the absolute satisfaction of Eliot Spitzer and Alan Hevesi.

However, you said there is " no denying the corruption inside the NYRA by some people " which implies there continues to be corruption there. If you are going to make these slanders be prepared to back them up. If this isn't what you meant then you should be careful how you word such accusations.
Great, according to Alan Hevesi, a real trustworthy guy.

So NYRA is either corrupt or incompetent. Doesn't matter to me. They lose money year after year due to incompetence or corruption. Pick your poison.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:34 PM
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Great, according to Alan Hevesi, a real trustworthy guy.

So NYRA is either corrupt or incompetent. Doesn't matter to me. They lose money year after year due to incompetence or corruption. Pick your poison.
So when Alan Hevesi says they are corrupt he is trustworthy but when he says they have cleaned up their act he is not?

You really need a diaper change.
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