NYRA Knockers TAKE THIS!!!

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sorry darling but I am still waiting for the list of even reformed-criminals still working at NYRA

Yeah, and I am waiting from the evidence on Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi. Give it up.

Did anyone know the names of the criminals when they were running rampant for all those years. Even if i knew names, I wouldn't give them, somebody like your friends would probably come break my knees. LOL.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Revolution

Yeah, and I am waiting from the evidence on Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi. Give it up.

Did anyone know the names of the criminals when they were running rampant for all those years. Even if i knew names, I wouldn't give them, somebody like your friends would probably come break my knees. LOL.

You MUST know who they are since you continually call them criminals. I see no reason you and I shouldn't have a sit down with senior NYRA management so that you can tell them who these criminals are. I am quite certain they would greatly appreciate your help.

If you can't do this, then you aren't " just dealing in facts ", as you claimed earlier, and in fact are a disingenuous liar.

No surprise.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You MUST know who they are since you continually call them criminals. I see no reason you and I shouldn't have a sit down with senior NYRA management so that you can tell them who these criminals are. I am quite certain they would greatly appreciate your help.

If you can't do this, then you aren't " just dealing in facts ", as you claimed earlier, and in fact are a disingenuous liar.

No surprise.

I would sit down with them, but thankfully they will be gone soon enough.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Revolution

I would sit down with them, but thankfully they will be gone soon enough.

They will be around long enough to meet you.

Should they make the trip over from Aqueduct today to meet you at Belmont? My guess is you'll be easy to find.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They will be around long enough to meet you.

Should they make the trip over from Aqueduct today to meet you at Belmont? My guess is you'll be easy to find.

Yeah, they could take the horse shuttle, or a private car service and charge the taxpayer $100 for the trip. LOL.


If NYRA is so great, why can't they do this as a for profit. Why do they need to be a non-profit? Perhaps because it is a little harder when you have to answer to shareholders than corrupt politicians that can be bought off with a few seats at Saratoga.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Revolution

Yeah, they could take the horse shuttle, or a private car service and charge the taxpayer $100 for the trip. LOL.


If NYRA is so great, why can't they do this as a for profit. Why do they need to be a non-profit?

I am glad you have at least begun to admit your deficiencies.

NYRA was set up as not-for-profit by the State. The argument for Not-for-Profit vs. For-Profit is an extensive, and actually quite interesting, one. In essense, the feeling is that the most successful model for running a racetrack is not-for-profit as in that model any " profits " are put back into the track as opposed to investors' pockets.

The real reason this is such an especially big issue in the case of the franchise for racing in NY State is that enormous profits will soon be generated from Slots. NYRA feels any money the " franchise " ( whomever is running it ) earns from the Slots should be returned to the racetracks ( better purses, capitol improvements, etc ) while those desiring a For-Profit model would like to take that money out of racing.

The vast majority of the most successful racetracks in North America are Not-For-Profit.

To me one of the most interesting things about this situation is that in the past one of the reasons NYRA maintained the franchise is that there were simply no other bidders. Coincidentally, many other bidders showed up when Slots were introduced to the equation. These same people are also only interested in " running " the franchise if it is changed to not-for-profit.

So, look at it this way, whether you like it or not, only NYRA is interested in returning ALL " profits " to racing while others would like to put those SAME " profits " in their pockets.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

rev stop paying your taxes then you wont feel "cheated"...steve andy..why bother..

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am glad you have at least begun to admit your deficiencies.

NYRA was set up as not-for-profit by the State. The argument for Not-for-Profit vs. For-Profit is an extensive, and actually quite interesting, one. In essense, the feeling is that the most successful model for running a racetrack is not-for-profit as in that model any " profits " are put back into the track as opposed to investors' pockets.

The real reason this is such an especially big issue in the case of the franchise for racing in NY State is that enormous profits will soon be generated from Slots. NYRA feels any money the " franchise " ( whomever is running it ) earns from the Slots should be returned to the racetracks ( better purses, capitol improvements, etc ) while those desiring a For-Profit model would like to take that money out of racing.

The vast majority of the most successful racetracks in North America are Not-For-Profit.

To me one of the most interesting things about this situation is that in the past one of the reasons NYRA maintained the franchise is that there were simply no other bidders. Coincidentally, many other bidders showed up when Slots were introduced to the equation. These same people are also only interested in " running " the franchise if it is changed to not-for-profit.

So, look at it this way, whether you like it or not, only NYRA is interested in returning ALL " profits " to racing while others would like to put those SAME " profits " in their pockets.

Yeah, NYRA is going to return the profits to racing, but somehow they will find a way for there to be no profits.

Why can't NYRA get a deal done with MGM? I am sure MGM wants non-profit slots. LOL.

Explain to me how NYRA can get in bed with MGM if they are so concerned with profits going back to horse racing. MGM isn't interested in profits I guess.