It's all about the kids

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

This is a very broad statement and is not true in all schools, but why let the facts get in the way

That is a very broad statement, and that is generally true for all the school districts I have lived within in five states. Teachers generally are dedicated enough to pay alot out of pocket for classroom supplies and extras.

Go ahead, please, and post the facts that counter: lists of what the school pays for in the classroom.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

That is a very broad statement, and that is generally true for all the school districts I have lived within in five states. Teachers generally are dedicated enough to pay alot out of pocket for classroom supplies and extras.

Go ahead, please, and post the facts that counter: lists of what the school pays for in the classroom.

You stated that the schools only pay for the walls and books. This is simply untrue in every state. That is all I am saying. Many districts reimburse teachers for supplies and some supply a lot of the items that they need. Your statement says that no school supplies a teacher with anything other than the classroom itself and the books.

I was just pointing out that you make broad untrue statements. Kind of like earlier in this thread where you claimed that MPS teachers already made concessions which is simply untrue.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

You stated that the schools only pay for the walls and books. This is simply untrue in every state.

So post the facts that you have. Just saying it's a fact doesn't make it so. You accuse me of that, yet you've never posted facts to back up any of your claims. Do as you say.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

So post the facts that you have. Just saying it's a fact doesn't make it so. You accuse me of that, yet you've never posted facts to back up any of your claims. Do as you say.

The facts are in some local area school districts in WI (i.e brookfield, west allis, etc.) the teachers are reimbursed for any supplies that they need within reason. Why do I know this? Well first 2 of my good friends wives work in these school district and my mom was a special education teacher for 40+ yrs. You stated that the teachers themselves pay for everything and the schools pay for nothing. How about the all the continuing education that they are reimbursed for? However in the private sector many of us including myself pay for things to do our jobs effectively.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

However in the private sector many of us including myself pay for things to do our jobs effectively.

So what? The private sector has nothing to do with the public. The public is what we have gotten together and agreed to pay for our common interests. From the first town out on the prairie that agreed to send east for a school marm to teach the kids.

You get what you pay for. If you are not getting what you have paid for (which is alot of what you don't like about unions) you change it.

Then you have people like who think that the getting together and paying as a group, forcing everyone in the town to contribute, is abusive or wrong. I think it goes towards the common good. I don't have children, but have always wanted to pay school taxes. It makes my town better, it makes my country better, to have children well-eduated.

Those folks that think differently then should leave society, and the social responsibilities and requirements of living and cohabitating in a "society", and go live alone.