gomez...you suck....

Originally Posted by oracle80

Maybe to you. But you arent the standard for deciding greatness. Its more of a people involved within and industry that decides that.
So lets have a poll shall we?
I say that the majority of people in the game deem Pletcher, Frankel, and Mandella as greats. What say you everyone?

Besides that, you must be an older guy. This game has changed and does not revolve around teh Derby. It revolves around the Breeders Cup. It is taht day that decides champions!!

They are greats but not immortals. As for the game, it will always revolve around the derby. How many people know Ghostzapper outside of racing? None. Secretariat, Barbaro, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, are all household names because they are derby winners that were great horses. There is not one person in the industry that would rather win a BC Classic than a Derby. Not one.

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

They are greats but not immortals. As for the game, it will always revolve around the derby. How many people know Ghostzapper outside of racing? None. Secretariat, Barbaro, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, are all household names because they are derby winners that were great horses. There is not one person in the industry that would rather win a BC Classic than a Derby. Not one.

Frankel would. More cash!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Frankel would. More cash!!

To this day Frankel loses sleep over Empire Maker. Frankel would trade that Ghostzapper BC Classic for an Empire Maker derby win any day. That guy talked about Empire Maker the day he was born, that is how badly he wants a derby. Until he gets what Baffert has three of he will always be looked at as inferior to Baffert. My friend told me Frankel constantly talks about how he desperately wants to be the first triple crown winner in years.

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Just a guess, but does this mean Tim Ritchey, Victor Espinoza, John Servis, and Stew Elliot are greater than Frankel, Pletcher and JohnnyV

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