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06-30-2011, 01:44 PM
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What part of the PPACA "caused" United Health Care to get rid of options? It's nice to blame the PPACA for UHC taking a last huge profit grab. But there is nothing in the PPACA that forced that. Not one thing. What is false is them blaming the PPACA. I mentioned your boss as I thought you said previously, when you talked about your employee health insurance increasing, that your boss had told you the rising costs were due to the PPACA.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 06-30-2011 at 02:08 PM. 
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06-30-2011, 03:57 PM
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It's nice to blame the PPACA for UHC taking a last huge profit grab. QUOTE] Bullshit You no doubt think Health Insurance is some wildly profitable business and have drank the anti-insurance company bullshit of the past 20 years. Tell us all your answer to this question: If health insurance is so profitable, why do so few insurers even underwrite health? What is your answer to this? Where is Metropolitan? Where is Prudential? Where is Allstate? Where is Hartford? Where is Travelers? Where is Liberty? Chubb? The answer is they used to be in health insurance. Now they are not. They all have left during the past 20 years. Do you think they left because they got tired of "grabbing huge profits," as you say?
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06-30-2011, 04:03 PM
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The PPACA is mostly consumer protections. Why? Because they are needed. Interestingly, stock in insurance companies rose when the PPACA became law. The health business is about 20% of our economy. That's absurd. It costs more to provide healthcare, per person, in the United States than in other first world countries, and we do not have the same quality of outcomes, nor do we have the same general population health, and we have the most uninsured and unseen by the healthcare system citizens of any other first world country. Yeah, the PPACA is a good start. What we need in this country is to offer a single payer opportunity. Offer Medicare buy in to anybody, of any age, who wants in. If the insurance companies can compete in an open market, they are welcome to.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
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06-30-2011, 04:07 PM
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You laughingly deflected away from answering why all the insurers I listed left the Health insurance market. No snappy transition for you there, I guess.
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06-30-2011, 04:15 PM
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And closing the donut hole saves money because people then can afford to purchase and take their medications - for diabetes, their heart problems, high blood pressure, etc - which decreases the cost of their lifetime health care. So it's an expenditure that pays bigger savings dividends in both health costs and better health. Like people having health insurance and being seen at the start of problems is better than not treating them until they end up in crisis in an emergency room.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 06-30-2011 at 04:26 PM.
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07-01-2011, 08:25 AM
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UHC is doing it because the cadillac tax. end of story
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