Crist writing about Lasix

[Calzone Lord]

Was Bounding Basque a big bleeder?




Maybe he wasn't ... but forms like he had were a lot more common in the pre-lasix days.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Was Bounding Basque a big bleeder?

Looked like he didn't like to face Vanlandingham or deal with a fast early pace.

[Calzone Lord]

Could be that too. I don't know. That's one nutty form.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Looked like he didn't like to face Vanlandingham or deal with a fast early pace.

The second Vanlandingham race makes sense because Vanlandingham was a pretty good mudder.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

The second Vanlandingham race makes sense because Vanlandingham was a pretty good mudder.

Vanlandingham was a pretty good everything. Is it possible he won his first ten races ( no, I just looked it up )? I remember him wiring a pretty good field over a total bog in the Washington DC International. He was a monster.

I also think he's basically the horse that put Shug on the map.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Was Bounding Basque a big bleeder?




Maybe he wasn't ... but forms like he had were a lot more common in the pre-lasix days.

Suddenly you're quite interested in him.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Suddenly you're quite interested in him.

I looked him up when you mentioned him the other day.

His form seemed like its all over the place - didn't bother to look through charts and stuff - any reason you know of why he seemed so inconsistant at first glance.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I looked him up when you mentioned him the other day.

His form seemed like its all over the place - didn't bother to look through charts and stuff - any reason you know of why he seemed so inconsistant at first glance.

No idea. Too long ago. He was just a horse I kind of liked....and I bet him when he beat Life's Magic. Not sure why.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No idea. Too long ago. He was just a horse I kind of liked....and I bet him when he beat Life's Magic. Not sure why.

"never on the rail" Graell breaking from the 10-hole maybe?

Maybe the 10th path was live that meet and you thought he might follow it the whole way around?

[PatCummings]

Crist: "It also would be a lot easier to accept the supposed scorn of the international racing community if a single one of the powerful international stables that sends horses to the Triple Crown and the Breeders’ Cup declined to use Lasix as a matter of principle once they get here. Instead, virtually all of them use it [my addition - when they race in the US] while continuing to criticize American racing for allowing them to do so."

As if thousands of Lasix-free races overseas wasn't enough proof...

International trainers are on record as saying they use Lasix when they get here because they believe it puts their horses on the same playing field, they believe it gives THEM an edge. When in Rome...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I looked him up when you mentioned him the other day.

His form seemed like its all over the place - didn't bother to look through charts and stuff - any reason you know of why he seemed so inconsistant at first glance.

The rail was frequently dead back then.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The rail was frequently dead back then.

I know you've mentioned that before - kind of where I was going with that Greall remark.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I know you've mentioned that before - kind of where I was going with that Greall remark.

I thought it was Tony " never knew the rail " Graell.

I actually still see him occasionally.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Was Bounding Basque a big bleeder?




Maybe he wasn't ... but forms like he had were a lot more common in the pre-lasix days.

Lasix was legal back then. Just not in NY. Not sure about NJ.