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If you are playing a 100k pick 6 ticket, do you really need the "experts" constructing the tickets. Is there really a strategy involved in this ticket? Create a ticket and hope 2 or 3 big longshots come in?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

If you are playing a 100k pick 6 ticket, do you really need the "experts" constructing the tickets. Is there really a strategy involved in this ticket? Create a ticket and hope 2 or 3 big longshots come in?

I just don't understand the 90k into ONE ticket. They do that all the time. With that type of bankroll. I probably do two 30k tickets, and 5 other 8k tickets.

90k in one ticket puts a ton of emphasis on some really bad horses.

[blackthroatedwind]

Actually, in this case, while I couldn't have hit it for $100K, I would have had a better chance with a Caveman ticket. Now, I don't believe in Caveman tickets, but in this particular Pick-6, I can't see how I could have had five As, and one C, for under $100K. And, forget about 6 As or Bs in a multi-ticket approach....for under $100K that is. The last winner would have required a virtual " all " and I don't know how I could have managed the other legs to have gotten that far....especially given the second winner. Frankly, the winner of the 5th leg would have been no problem, relatively speaking.

This sequence was impossible going in and no easier going out.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, in this case, while I couldn't have hit it for $100K, I would have had a better chance with a Caveman ticket. Now, I don't believe in Caveman tickets, but in this particular Pick-6, I can't see how I could have had five As, and one C, for under $100K. And, forget about 6 As or Bs in a multi-ticket approach....for under $100K that is. The last winner would have required a virtual " all " and I don't know how I could have managed the other legs to have gotten that far....especially given the second winner. Frankly, the winner of the 5th leg would have been no problem, relatively speaking.

This sequence was impossible going in and no easier going out.

I agree with this. I had no clue on this sequence as it was extremely difficult, and quite frankly was surprised it was as "formful" as it ended up being (sans the 8th race of course.) While it's tough to do, sometimes it's better to take a pass in the pick 6 even on a monster carryover like this one when it's just not shaping up for you either in terms of the race types or finding the horses you feel comfortable leaning heavily on. For example, turf sprints are the toughest races for me and today had three of them. The times I've done well in the pick 6 were when I looked at the card the first time and said "I'm going to hit this", not "I have no clue in three of the races."

I bought 1% of my friend's $4k ticket just for a rooting interest and he didn't have much luck either.

[blackthroatedwind]

I thought the last winner was much harder than the winner of the 8th. Much harder.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If you're spending that much, that horse in the 8th should of been on that ticket. If Ken Rudolf liked it, it's pretty obvious longshot stuff. Not like the horse had hated the course every time it's tried it. I mean, for that amount of money, if you can't include that horse, then, you just don't have a good feel for the card. Going too deep in easier races.

[herkhorse]

I wouldn't criticize anyone for losing, but it's amazing to me how fast people throw money into these pools.

Originally Posted by Scav

I just don't understand the 90k into ONE ticket. They do that all the time. With that type of bankroll. I probably do two 30k tickets, and 5 other 8k tickets.


90k in one ticket puts a ton of emphasis on some really bad horses.

I agree. The so called handicapping these experts do on a 90k ticket is pointless. They can afford to go as much as 6 horses deep in every race. With that bankroll I can skim the racing form for 5 min and construct my ticket and I am still not garaunteed to win above 100k IF I win. There is no point of having "experts" or that big bankroll.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I agree. The so called handicapping these experts do on a 90k ticket is pointless. They can afford to go as much as 6 horses deep in every race. With that bankroll I can skim the racing form for 5 min and construct my ticket and I am still not garaunteed to win above 100k IF I win. There is no point of having "experts" or that big bankroll.

I completely disagree.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I completely disagree.

90% of your bankroll on one ticket when dealing with that kind of money is pointless, reckless and also downright wrong, having that type of bankroll is definately not pointless though.

You could probably get this info, although I'm not sure how easy it is to find, but I would be curious what woud be the largest ticket played that pool today.

I would think 90k is probably close to the top 3 tickets cost wise. Maybe I'm wrong.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

90% of your bankroll on one ticket when dealing with that kind of money is pointless, reckless and also downright wrong, having that type of bankroll is definately not.

You could probably get this info, although I'm not sure how easy it is to find, but I would be curious what woud be the largest ticket played that pool today.

I would think 90k is probably close to the top 3 tickets cost wise. Maybe I'm wrong.

First of all, that is not what the other poster said....so why quote my post disagreeing with him?

However, since you asked....I don't think you have really thought this one through. I am not saying I would construct the play as they did, but I will guess it wasn't random, and they certainly deserve the benefit of the doubt.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

First of all, that is not what the other poster said....so why quote my post disagreeing with him?

However, since you asked....I don't think you have really thought this one through. I am not saying I would construct the play as they did, but I will guess it wasn't random, and they certainly deserve the benefit of the doubt.

I don't have the prior tickets as proof, but I recall them normally spending alot of money on one ticket and then smaller backups.

I guess there isn't a correct answer when it comes to structuring a bunch of tickets because it will always depend on the sequence, but at some point I would trust my handicapping.