Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if those who suddenly want the debt ceiling raised were against it a few years back, when dems were howling against it? dems now recognize the need to raise, so now...they're suddenly smart?



as for novices, our first congresses were made up of nothing but novices. they did one hell of a job getting us started. when did we get indoctrinated into thinking only career politicians knew what was best?


yeah, just what i thought:

Obama Voted Against Raising Debt Ceiling in 2006 – All Democrats Did – So why the change?

Obama Voted Against Raising Debt Ceiling in 2006 – All Dems Did. The President made an admission along with many other dems that they made a “political” decision in 2006, instead of a fiscal one. They voted not to pass the CR, continuing resolution to to allow the federal government to operate. This was done while the republicans held the House of representatives and Bush was in office. It seemed to have paid off. Sounds like it paid off in getting Obama elected.



At the time, Reid said:

“If my Republican friends believe that increasing our debt by almost $800 billion today and more than $3 trillion over the last five years is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they think more debt is good for the economy.

“How can the Republican majority in this Congress explain to their constituents that trillions of dollars in new debt is good for our economy? How can they explain that they think it’s fair to force our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren to finance this debt through higher taxes. That’s what it will have to be. Why is it right to increase our nation’s dependence on foreign creditors?

“They should explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they’re right. I doubt it. Because most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the Baby Boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it. Democrats won’t be making argument to supper this legalization, which will weaken our country. Weaken our county.”

When Senator Reid was recently asked by NBC’s David Gregory about the conflict between his 2006 and 2011 statements, Reid replied, “I don’t really know what vote you’re talking about.”

I "thing" I get it. When it was Bush's money to spend, Obama was against it. Now that the credit card is in Obama's hands, he wants to raise the credit limit. What neither got was the credit card is in OUR name and we want to cap the limit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

I "thing" I get it. When it was Bush's money to spend, Obama was against it. Now that the credit card is in Obama's hands, he wants to raise the credit limit. What neither got was the credit card is in OUR name and we want to cap the limit.

no, obama and the dems are against anything the republicans are for, and vice versa. this is why everything is crappy, nothing gets done, nothing moves forward, and it's business is usual. now, the dems are in charge, so they want what they want. the reps don't want them to succeed at anything, as the reps want the white house back.
so, we all get the shaft, again, while the pols do their usual.

it's not a matter of what's best, or who can do what. it's about blaming the other guy for everything wrong, and taking credit for everything that's right. both sides engage in the same behavior.
the funny people are those who actually think one or the other of the two parties is the good guy. they both suck. they both hold policy and money hostage to further their own agenda, to keep their power or try to get more. it's why clinton and the dems voted for doma when they're supposedly not worried about people's private lives, it's why congress voted to invade afganistan. it's why republicans are trying to further their agenda while playing politics with the debt ceiling. after obama and company did the same a few years back. it's why clinton was free to fool around and lie, but weiner isn't. or why dems are after weiner, but rangel can stay-after all, his issues were with money, and that's just fine.