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Old 10-24-2006, 08:32 AM
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Why the big secret in divulging the pre-entries?
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:39 AM
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I'd hate to play Henny Hughes at a short price but hes certainly going to be the horse to beat. His tactical speed style is a definite aid in a race where many horses need the lead to win.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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I'd hate to play Henny Hughes at a short price but hes certainly going to be the horse to beat. His tactical speed style is a definite aid in a race where many horses need the lead to win.
Henny may be the best here, but I don't think 6f is his best distance. Remember Aldeberan a few years ago who was top notch at 7, but got outrun early and couldn't get up. Considering his probable odds, I'm going to have to take a shot against him.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:57 AM
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Considering his probable odds, I'm going to have to take a shot against him.

hard to argue that! I'm mapping out my pick 3 strategy that includes trying to beat HH in the sprint. Several others could certainly 'steal' this one from Henny. Post position will definately play a role in my decision to play against him, and with which horses.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:16 AM
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Henny may be the best here, but I don't think 6f is his best distance. Remember Aldeberan a few years ago who was top notch at 7, but got outrun early and couldn't get up. Considering his probable odds, I'm going to have to take a shot against him.

Remember Birdonthewire? In '93 he reeled off wins in the Tom Fool (7f), Forego (7f) and the Vosburgh (7f) looking like a monster. His only lifetime win at 6f was when he was a 2yr old in an MSW. So what does the public do in the BC (6f)? That's right, made him the chalk. Ran up the track. Easy easy bet against. Not saying HH won't handle the 6f, but your Aldeberan comment made me think of Birdonthewire.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:19 AM
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I'll be taking a long look at Commentator if the price is right.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:26 AM
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Henny is the best here but I am uneasy at taking too short a price on him in a race like the Sprint that is one of the TOUGHEST races in North America to win along with the BC Mile and Kentucky Derby....I actually think War Front is fast enough and good enough to have a big shot here....he can rate, unlike Commentator and some of the others with the talent to win this, and I think that makes him the most dangerous competition for Henny....

I'm not a fan of any of the California horses.....Kelly's Kanding is intriguing because he loves CD and is in great form right now, but even he doesn't appear as fast as Henny and War Front to me.....Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny but could capitalize if that one doesn't fire....interesting race.....pace should be as hot as always..
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:36 AM
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Henny is better at 6 than 7, so I wouldn't throw him out for that reason. Price dictates why I won't use him, but I won't be shocked if he won. Now Bordanaro winning would shock me.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:08 PM
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Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny

He is as fast as him sheet wise.....although 2MB has only run one number as fast as him, I think it was that slop race he won, won't know until later, but either way, I using him.

I have no idea what HH's last number was, but I am going to assume it was somewhat similar

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Old 10-24-2006, 08:48 PM
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Henny is the best here but I am uneasy at taking too short a price on him in a race like the Sprint that is one of the TOUGHEST races in North America to win along with the BC Mile and Kentucky Derby....I actually think War Front is fast enough and good enough to have a big shot here....he can rate, unlike Commentator and some of the others with the talent to win this, and I think that makes him the most dangerous competition for Henny....

I'm not a fan of any of the California horses.....Kelly's Kanding is intriguing because he loves CD and is in great form right now, but even he doesn't appear as fast as Henny and War Front to me.....Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny but could capitalize if that one doesn't fire....interesting race.....pace should be as hot as always..

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Old 10-24-2006, 11:20 AM
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Remember Birdonthewire? In '93 he reeled off wins in the Tom Fool (7f), Forego (7f) and the Vosburgh (7f) looking like a monster. His only lifetime win at 6f was when he was a 2yr old in an MSW. So what does the public do in the BC (6f)? That's right, made him the chalk. Ran up the track. Easy easy bet against. Not saying HH won't handle the 6f, but your Aldeberan comment made me think of Birdonthewire.
but don't forget that this years vosburgh was 6f not 7...and HH went 6 in his other start this year as well. The biggest question is where he will draw...HH is not good out of the gate...he is usually off slow. That is not a good thing in a race of this caliber @ this distance...if he draws the rail he will be up against it. With that said...those that know me know I'm this horse's biggest fan...i say he wins.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:20 AM
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I'm no huge Henny Hughes fan, but this year's Vosburgh was 6F and so was his 3YO debut.

Comparing him to Aldebaran and BirdontheWire makes little to no sense.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:24 AM
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I'm no huge Henny Hughes fan, but this year's Vosburgh was 6F and so was his 3YO debut.

Comparing him to Aldebaran and BirdontheWire makes little to no sense.
Didn't mean to imply any comparison to Birdonthewire. The Aldebaran comment made me think of Birdonthewire. It was more of a comparison of those two.

For the record HH should be the chalk and should win.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:26 AM
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Henny has run 2 races at 6f this year. One in 1:08:1 in his 1st start in like 7 months and the other in 1:08 flat in a Grade 1 against olders, and out of the 1 hole I believe. If he loses, I don't think it will be because he doesn't like the distance.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:20 PM
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:13 PM
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Henny may be the best here, but I don't think 6f is his best distance. Remember Aldeberan a few years ago who was top notch at 7, but got outrun early and couldn't get up. Considering his probable odds, I'm going to have to take a shot against him.
Hey TG, you should take a look at HH's past performances. He is 5 wins in 5 tries at distances of six furlongs or less. He always races right up close to the pace, never coming from way back. You can never describe Henny as being outrun early in any race he has raced. He is typically 2nd by 1/2 length at the first call.

The comparison to Aldebaran doesn't hold up imo, that horse usually had to pass the entire field to get up.

If you ask me, six furlongs is probably the optimum distance for Henny.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:15 PM
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Hey TG, you should take a look at HH's past performances. He is 5 wins in 5 tries at distances of six furlongs or less. He always races right up close to the pace, never coming from way back. You can never describe Henny as being outrun early in any race he has raced. He is typically 2nd by 1/2 length at the first call.

The comparison to Aldebaran doesn't hold up imo, that horse usually had to pass the entire field to get up.

If you ask me, six furlongs is probably the optimum distance for Henny.
He is probably optimum at 5f to 8f quite honestly. The horse is a monster, no doubt but from a wagering aspect, I am going to go deep in this race
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:22 PM
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He is probably optimum at 5f to 8f quite honestly. The horse is a monster, no doubt but from a wagering aspect, I am going to go deep in this race
I hear ya, tough to single in here. To me Henny is most likely winner but I really don't have any idea yet how I'll play this.

If you ask me this years sprint is shaping up to be pretty salty. Several appear to belong here and have reasonable shots.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:56 PM
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Believe me, he's not the smae animal henny is...but I will use him if Henny doesn't fire
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:06 PM
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Im thinking Comentator is the key horse. With his ability to set rapid eary fractions , he will either steal the race or tax Henny so much trying to stay close, that a late runner will nip them. The way Henny is running it will take a lot for him to run out of gas but I feel that zitto will have comentator running as fast as he can for as far as he can.
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