Nakatini + Balleto = ummmm???

[pmayjr]

I'm sure there's no one with the same namesake on here that will be rooting for her lol...

Nakatani. He's adequate. He never got out of Wilko what Dettori got out of him, but he's adequate...

[Pointg5]

I'll let her beat me in p3's and p4's, no way can I use her in a win spot...I see this BC as a Spain and Carressing repeat for the Distaff and especially the Juvy Fillies, bombs away...No way can Nakatani move her up for a win...

I just love thse guys who think that some midget superhero is gonna make a chandelier like her suddenly have heart and wanna run by horses. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Wake me up when something of relevance is said.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I just love thse guys who think that some midget superhero is gonna make a chandelier like her suddenly have heart and wanna run by horses. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Wake me up when something of relevance is said.

So you don't think that some jocks 'fit' horses? You know as well as I do that her fastest could win this race, I don't dispute her hanging type with you one bit.

[Pointg5]

Do yourself a favor, scratch out the name of every jockey....

Originally Posted by Scav

So you don't think that some jocks 'fit' horses? You know as well as I do that her fastest could win this race, I don't dispute her hanging type with you one bit.

Listen to Point G Scav, hes right.
I have never once in my life bet a horse just because a particular jock is on it. I will refuse to bet one because a certain jock is on one, but never the opposite, do you hear what I am saying.
That "fitting" stuff is nothing more than a romanticized notion that is clung to by sports writers who don't know any better and degenerate gamblers who want desperately to believe in such bull****.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

hold up chief , your saying that never in your life you havent bet a horse when in the pps he is the only one who wins on this horse and hes back on today....i think not...

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

hold up chief , your saying that never in your life you havent bet a horse when in the pps he is the only one who wins on this horse and hes back on today....i think not...

Hooves I am telling you that. I think that when you are deaing with a top jock, the difference is subtle. I never used jock handicapping for anything other than tossing out a horse who had an absolute horror show jock on his orher back, and even then it doesn't scare me sometimes. I am telling you that. But to each his own, jock handicapping is how soem like to play the game.

[Pointg5]

not me, I couldn't tell you who is riding them half of the time...

imho, Jockeys can't win a race, but they can lose it, but the horse can overcome even mild incompetence if he's the best...

I should clarify, it's my belief, but a belief I obtained from one of Beyer's Books...

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Listen to Point G Scav, hes right.
I have never once in my life bet a horse just because a particular jock is on it. I will refuse to bet one because a certain jock is on one, but never the opposite, do you hear what I am saying.
That "fitting" stuff is nothing more than a romanticized notion that is clung to by sports writers who don't know any better and degenerate gamblers who want desperately to believe in such bull****.

mike you wouldnt bet a horse first time pval if you felt the horse needed to be hustled from the gate and wasnt in previous races? one of the reasons i loved and bet offlee in the holybull was because the guid was gettin aboard and i felt the horse needed a patient ride in the race, he got just that and popped at a huge price for lands as you know of course. in certain instances its valid in my opinion

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

mike you wouldnt bet a horse first time pval if you felt the horse needed to be hustled from the gate and wasnt in previous races? one of the reasons i loved and bet offlee in the holybull was because the guid was gettin aboard and i felt the horse needed a patient ride in the race, he got just that and popped at a huge price for lands as you know of course. in certain instances its valid in my opinion

And then "the Guid" didn't ride him out for 3rd money in his next start.
I wouldnt bet any horse just because Pval was on it, its the horse that counts most.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I just love thse guys who think that some midget superhero is gonna make a chandelier like her suddenly have heart and wanna run by horses. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Wake me up when something of relevance is said.

just like gary stevens on RHT in the Preakness, even Im still embarassed over the foolishness

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

just like gary stevens on RHT in the Preakness, even Im still embarassed over the foolishness

Thats a pretty good example.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats a pretty good example.

dont forget all the rides Big Money Bailey were in where I proclaimed he would save the day. Pat Day not so much

Only Bailey and Stevens gave you that feeling the would magically lead any mule to victory

[cakes44]

I just watched that Go for Wand race again the other day. I think you and I just see it differently. I see him already getting into her going into the turn. She was just that much better than everyone in the race that day that she was still able to have enough energy to split horses and run by everyone in the stretch. I've been wrong plenty of times before though and I'll be wrong for plenty of $ on Nov. 4th as well.

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

just like gary stevens on RHT in the Preakness, even Im still embarassed over the foolishness

That was the best horse he's ever ridden.