Name what you would do to turn the economy around

I would send pud pics to all of my female fans on facebook and then bottle my jizz as a protein supplement and sell it exclusively on Amazon.com.

That alone would start the jizzdustrial age.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I would send pud pics to all of my female fans on facebook and then bottle my jizz as a protein supplement and sell it exclusively on Amazon.com.

That alone would start the jizzdustrial age.

I have some backup I could contribute.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GPK

I have some backup I could contribute.

You've done enough.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You've done enough.

[Danzig]

i'm reading book two in the oxford american history series. covers from 1789-1815. something jumped out at me-the feeling by most in the early days of forming our federal govt that citizens could rule themselves without much govt interference, without the govt 'knowing what's best' or 'what's good for us'-since many only knew about their own region, and not the larger country. i think we've really gotten away from that line of thinking. too many now believe the opposite, that the elite have our best interests at heart, and will take care of us.

those who ignore history.....

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm reading book two in the oxford american history series. covers from 1789-1815. something jumped out at me-the feeling by most in the early days of forming our federal govt that citizens could rule themselves without much govt interference, without the govt 'knowing what's best' or 'what's good for us'-since many only knew about their own region, and not the larger country. i think we've really gotten away from that line of thinking. too many now believe the opposite, that the elite have our best interests at heart, and will take care of us.

those who ignore history.....

exactly. we depend way too much on the government now. It's like we cant think for ourselves.

[clyde]

Does anyone have their own thoughts anymore?

All I see are someone elses words and time worn bromides.




If you must suck..do it on NA.

"The Simpsons did it"

[somerfrost]

Not being an expert in economic matters, I can only list measures I'd like to see, cannot say their effect on economy.
1. Restructure tax system eliminating all loop holes, folks making $30,000 a year or less would pay no tax, families with $50,000 or less likewise, all others would be taxed at 25% up to income of $200,000, 35% for rest.
2. Institute a 2 year service requirement for all folks to be served immediately upon completion of high school or 18th birthday if not in school. No exclusions unless person is deemed physically or mentally unable to care for self.
3. Mandatory reduction of salaries/bonuses/benefits for CEO's, other upper management folks, professional sports figures...nobody makes more than a million a year.
4. Legalize marijuana, to be sold in government "stores" and grown on government farms, sold at price much lower than street cost.
5. Raise salaries of folks providing health care, especially nurses, techs, and those providing direct care to those folks who are disabled, sick or elderly. Universal health care for all citizens.
6. Term limits for all political offices (except Supreme Court)...Senators...2 terms, Reps...5 terms.

[clyde]

Boy, this is getting shallow.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Not being an expert in economic matters, I can only list measures I'd like to see, cannot say their effect on economy.
1. Restructure tax system eliminating all loop holes, folks making $30,000 a year or less would pay no tax, families with $50,000 or less likewise, all others would be taxed at 25% up to income of $200,000, 35% for rest.
2. Institute a 2 year service requirement for all folks to be served immediately upon completion of high school or 18th birthday if not in school. No exclusions unless person is deemed physically or mentally unable to care for self.
3. Mandatory reduction of salaries/bonuses/benefits for CEO's, other upper management folks, professional sports figures...nobody makes more than a million a year.
4. Legalize marijuana, to be sold in government "stores" and grown on government farms, sold at price much lower than street cost.
5. Raise salaries of folks providing health care, especially nurses, techs, and those providing direct care to those folks who are disabled, sick or elderly. Universal health care for all citizens.
6. Term limits for all political offices (except Supreme Court)...Senators...2 terms, Reps...5 terms.

1: Why 2 rates instead of one? One rate - total proportionality. No problem with the first $30,000 exempted for everybody though.

2: The service requirement would violate the 13th amendment, which banned slavery. Slavery can be defined, at a minimum, as mandatory labor without compensation, among many other bad things to go with it.

3: It is no concern of the government what individuals make in their own private enterprise. There is no maximum salary and never will be.

4: What would be the disincentive to abusing the drug? That crap is illegal for a reason. I don't want stoned airline pilots, surgeons, or accountants for that matter handling any aspect of my life. No thanks.

5: Get rid of ObamaCare and maybe the salary structure WOULD resemble more of a free market.

6: Like the term limit idea - but make both houses equal: 2 terms for senators, 6 terms for reps, so both are 12 years. 24 years total in Congress for the career politician. And those experienced people would make good presidential candidates.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

4. Legalize marijuana, to be sold in government "stores" and grown on government farms, sold at price much lower than street cost.
.

really?? The goverment has to grow and sell it? the only thing the goverment should do is tax it.. not grow and sell it. Though G13 is quite nice.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

3. Mandatory reduction of salaries/bonuses/benefits for CEO's, other upper management folks, professional sports figures...nobody makes more than a million a year.
.

how extremely un-American. there are other countries you can live in if you really think this is a good idea.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

6. Term limits for all political offices (except Supreme Court)...Senators...2 terms, Reps...5 terms.

Having term limits removes all incentive (re-election) for responsible behaviour.

3. Mandatory reduction of salaries/bonuses/benefits for CEO's, other upper management folks, professional sports figures...nobody makes more than a million a year.

What would be the point? This is America, that would be illegal anyway.

[Riot]

Joey, would you be willing to read this article on Social Security? Especially the short paragraphs regarding benefit payouts and the trust fund?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...ited_States%29

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Joey, would you be willing to read this article on Social Security? Especially the short paragraphs regarding benefit payouts and the trust fund?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...ited_States%29

The Social Security fund needs to be diversified. The Treasury needs to pay back its trillions in IOU's and allow the SS trust fund to be invested in a much safer, diversified portfolio including investments in American businesses, ie jobs! The Fed borrowing money from SS with the promise to pay it back is equivlent to Pascuale Ponzi borrowing from Mario Ponzi. Both should sound the same alarms.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm reading book two in the oxford american history series. covers from 1789-1815. something jumped out at me-the feeling by most in the early days of forming our federal govt that citizens could rule themselves without much govt interference, without the govt 'knowing what's best' or 'what's good for us'-since many only knew about their own region, and not the larger country. i think we've really gotten away from that line of thinking. too many now believe the opposite, that the elite have our best interests at heart, and will take care of us.

those who ignore history.....

At that point, however, we raised and slaughtered our own food in our backyards, lived locally (for our resources), created our own transportation systems, died young and hardly left our national borders.

The world simply is a quite different place today. I have no desire to give up the federal programs that keep us all safe, such as the Centers for Disease Control, the Food & Drug Administration, FEMA to help with the rebuilding when something like Katrina strikes, etc. We are a socially interdependent country, not Galt's Gulch.

We are the ones that elect our leaders. If our leaders suck, it's our own fault

I personally am thrilled (and relieved) we elected Obama-Biden over McCain-Palin. Sarah Palin a heartbeat from the Presidency of the United States. Yes, we can't ignore our history.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

At that point, however, we raised and slaughtered our own food in our backyards, lived locally (for our resources), created our own transportation systems, died young and hardly left our national borders.

The world simply is a quite different place today. I have no desire to give up the federal programs that keep us all safe, such as the Centers for Disease Control, the Food & Drug Administration, FEMA to help with the rebuilding when something like Katrina strikes, etc. We are a socially interdependent country, not Galt's Gulch.

We are the ones that elect our leaders. If our leaders suck, it's our own fault

I personally am thrilled (and relieved) we elected Obama-Biden over McCain-Palin. Sarah Palin a heartbeat from the Presidency of the United States. Yes, we can't ignore our history.

One rarely thinks of FEMA, CDC or FDA when we think Gov't intrusion