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Old 06-04-2011, 09:45 PM
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Unless you're going to claim that LeBron is going to win 5 or more then this conversation is not going to happen.
I have always been in the Kobe camp as far as who was the better player. But now? I think injuries and father time (scary thought!)are catching up with Kobe while Lebron is in the middle of his prime. I think its conceivable, especially the way the NBA is now, that Lebron can win more than five championships.

Lebron, in my opinion, never will be the scorer that Kobe has been. He will never be the same "force" offensively. His lateral quickness, his end to end speed with and without the ball, his ball handling just aren't what Kobe's were. I think Lebron can do more things. I think Lebron can "get his" more in the flow of an offense. I think Lebron is the better playmaker and I would put him in the top tier in the league in passing. I think Lebron is the better rebounder. I think Lebron helps better and plays passing lanes better than kobe although I think kobe was a better lock down guy. I think kobe is a superior shooter from low post, mid range and three. Lebron takes it to the basket much stronger.

If you took Lebron 2005-2010 and put him on those 3 championships teams with shaq, I find it hard to believe that the Lakers wouldn't have still won those three rings. The last two years? I think that is certainly up for debate.

We did see the success that kobe had when he was playing with mediocre talents around him. The west was certainly much tougher those years than most of the years that Lebron was with cleveland but Kobe never even sniffed the conference final. Did they even win a round? Compare that to what Magic made the final with in 92 or what Lebron made it with in cleveland.

Despite the contempt I have for Lebron in regards to his whining on every violation and his classless "decision", I do respect that with or without a title, he is the best of his era and certainly an all time great.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:15 PM
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I was only kidding ,Dahler......don't hate me.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:42 PM
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As an aside, someone the other day brought something to mind that I hadn't ever considered. Scottie Pippen took the Bulls further without MJ than MJ ever took them without Pippen. I found that kind of interesting.
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As an aside, someone the other day brought something to mind that I hadn't ever considered. Scottie Pippen took the Bulls further without MJ than MJ ever took them without Pippen. I found that kind of interesting.
You find a lot of meaningless things interesting, I'm guessing.
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Old 06-05-2011, 01:59 AM
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You find a lot of meaningless things interesting, I'm guessing.
Your posts have been a great source for years.
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Your posts have been a great source for years.
Pot, kettle.
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Old 06-05-2011, 06:03 PM
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Glad to have helped ateam.
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Are you sure about that Dalakhani? The furthest the Bulls got with Phil and no Jordan was the second round. The furthest the Bulls went with Jordan and no Phil was the conference finals wasn't it?
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As an aside, someone the other day brought something to mind that I hadn't ever considered. Scottie Pippen took the Bulls further without MJ than MJ ever took them without Pippen. I found that kind of interesting.
You can say the same thing about Phil Jackson with the both of them but I know how you feel about that.
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