Vote on Debt Limit increase?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

I agree with 'Zig. We have held onto our small incursions into the rest of the world because they form valuable footholds we can't afford to let go of, and we shouldn't let go entirely.

Pakistan - US helicopter dispute on Af-Pak border today.

Hey, I'm very pro-military myself. Just pointing out that every war we get into, and this goes back to World War II, we never leave. So then you have for all intents and purposes a permanent foothold which obviously is expensive when you talk about 70 years in Europe, 60 years in South Korea... they forced us to leave Vietnam or we'd be there too, the U.N. had us go into Bosnia and never leave - the list goes on and on.

Of course the deployment costs are not the same as a full blown invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan, but the time factor is the other multiplier and that number is huge when you're talking about decades.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Hey, I'm very pro-military myself. Just pointing out that every war we get into, and this goes back to World War II, we never leave. So then you have for all intents and purposes a permanent foothold which obviously is expensive when you talk about 70 years in Europe, 60 years in South Korea... they forced us to leave Vietnam or we'd be there too, the U.N. had us go into Bosnia and never leave - the list goes on and on.

Of course the deployment costs are not the same as a full blown invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan, but the time factor is the other multiplier and that number is huge when you're talking about decades.

I thank you for your appreciation of the military.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I thank you for your appreciation of the military.

Why not put your signature that says you were former milatary... It'll save you the hundreds of posts you make on this forum telling us so in the hopes it will gain you an iota of respect.. While we respect the military, you are a slug and I am 100% certain any military man worth his salt would be disgusted by you and your actions.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why not put your signature that says you were former milatary... It'll save you the hundreds of posts you make on this forum telling us so in the hopes it will gain you an iota of respect.. While we respect the military, you are a slug and I am 100% certain any military man worth his salt would be disgusted by you and your actions.

Spoken like the trash that you are. No military person would take the crap from you either. Go back to your miserable life. Didnt you say in a previous post that the military didnt deserve retirement pay instead it should be a 401K fund? Did you you forget that moron? By the way moron you mispelled military. Don't ping on my about my spelling from now on.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Spoken like the trash that you are. No military person would take the crap from you either. Go back to your miserable life. Didnt you say in a previous post that the military didnt deserve retirement pay instead it should be a 401K fund? Did you you forget that moron? By the way moron you mispelled military. Don't ping on my about my spelling from now on.

I said that and I stand by it. Why should the military and police be allowed to collect a pension at 40 while they are looking to raise SS age to 70. It is a job they chose. And you the hypocrite railing on about the deficit and entitlements yet gladly cashing your check every month.. LOL.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

I said that and I stand by it. Why should the military and police be allowed to collect a pension at 40 while they are looking to raise SS age to 70. It is a job they chose. And you the hypocrite railing on about the deficit and entitlements yet gladly cashing your check every month.. LOL.

If we're going to cut entitlements, lets start with those who didn't put their lives on the line to defend the country. All those worthless individuals who are crying because Oprah won't be broadcasting anymore, so their days on welfare will be a little less entertaining.

Military benefits would be the last thing to cut. Those guys earned it, and frankly, it isn't enough.

Those who would rather do nothing all day don't deserve a penny.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

If we're going to cut entitlements, lets start with those who didn't put their lives on the line to defend the country. All those worthless individuals who are crying because Oprah won't be broadcasting anymore, so their days on welfare will be a little less entertaining.

Military benefits would be the last thing to cut. Those guys earned it, and frankly, it isn't enough.

Those who would rather do nothing all day don't deserve a penny.

Never said they didnt deserve benefits but 40 years old? The problem is the cuts have to be DEEP and affect everybody.. Problem is everyone wants to defend their turf so NOTHING is done. Everyone wants something done that doesn't affect them so we are at a stalemate.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

I said that and I stand by it. Why should the military and police be allowed to collect a pension at 40 while they are looking to raise SS age to 70. It is a job they chose. And you the hypocrite railing on about the deficit and entitlements yet gladly cashing your check every month.. LOL.

Why should the big company executives, the Presindent and the Congressmen and Senators get a big pension when they serve less time than a person in the military does? Just shows me how ungrateful you are towards the military. I hope some one you know that is serving in the military comes home in a body bag. Maybe then you will appreciate the military more. I see you learned how to spell military correctly.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Why should the big company executives, the Presindent and the Congressmen and Senators get a big pension when they serve less time than a person in the military does? Just shows me how ungrateful you are towards the military. I hope some one you know that is serving in the military comes home in a body bag. Maybe then you will appreciate the military more. I see you learned how to spell military correctly.

Do they get said pension at the age of 40?

You have sunk to an absolute ALL-TIME LOW... WOW, I am too disgusted to even comment.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Why should the big company executives, the Presindent and the Congressmen and Senators get a big pension when they serve less time than a person in the military does? Just shows me how ungrateful you are towards the military. I hope some one you know that is serving in the military comes home in a body bag. Maybe then you will appreciate the military more. I see you learned how to spell military correctly.

if you really hope that Nascar, you have some major issues.

You should be ashamed at yourself for writing that. Do you know how many families have had to deal with the loss of a loved one? disgusting, dude.