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Old 10-22-2006, 08:16 PM
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wow.

all those on here decrying the 'cruelty' of keeping funny cide at the races will be griping like made when bernardini retires...hell, ap warrior retired as well....oh, it's not right they'll say, it's too soon. he should race more. why, if it's so cruel?? why not let them go out a winner, rather than plodding along winning six figures a year when the obviously don't want to do it anymore.

damned if you do, damned if you don't. can't please any or everyone, so i hope everyone just tries to please themselves.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:31 PM
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wow.

all those on here decrying the 'cruelty' of keeping funny cide at the races will be griping like made when bernardini retires...hell, ap warrior retired as well....oh, it's not right they'll say, it's too soon. he should race more. why, if it's so cruel?? why not let them go out a winner, rather than plodding along winning six figures a year when the obviously don't want to do it anymore.

damned if you do, damned if you don't. can't please any or everyone, so i hope everyone just tries to please themselves.
This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:34 PM
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This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race
my screen name has nothing to do with my beliefs on running a horse. danzig was retired due to a serious knee injury... if you're advocating running unsound horses, you won't get much company in that thought.

funny cide is sound, he seems healthy, and unless he has shown he no longer wants to run, i see no reason to quit.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:01 PM
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[quote=Danzig188]my screen name has nothing to do with my beliefs on running a horse. danzig was retired due to a serious knee injury... if you're advocating running unsound horses, you won't get much company in that thought.

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If I remember correctly, Danzig was a Woody/Henryk D horse. He was a son of Northern Dancer who retired after 3 races as a 3 yo and now has two million stakes winners and 5 million unsound offspring following in his footsteps
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:07 AM
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This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race

I don't think Danzig ever ran at Saratoga. I know he was scratched the final time he was entered, and that was at Monmouth, in a race eventually won by 15 lengths by the mighty Amber Pass ( in the days when horses we actually good ).
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:46 AM
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I don't think Danzig ever ran at Saratoga. I know he was scratched the final time he was entered, and that was at Monmouth, in a race eventually won by 15 lengths by the mighty Amber Pass ( in the days when horses we actually good ).
I am pretty sure I was at the Spa for his third and final race, an allowance win ...'81? '82? The memory isn't what it used to be so I may be wrong.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:03 AM
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West Virginia's a pretty darn good race horse, and he also got waxed in the Empire Classic. I think folks are WAY overreacting on this particular Funny Cide race.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:43 PM
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West Virginia's a pretty darn good race horse, and he also got waxed in the Empire Classic. I think folks are WAY overreacting on this particular Funny Cide race.
Thats probably true, but I honestly hate to see a multiple Grade 1 winner, a horse considered by some to be a hero - who introduced many to the game, off the board in a race restricted to NY breds. Nothing against NY-breds but I just hate to see talented horses who have lost 'it'. Funny had a string of something like 14 100+ Beyer efforts snapped last spring and now he's lucky to run a low 90's fig. He was a battler and I'll always remember that JCGC win, but now I just dont see that same fire in his eyes. I saw it in the race against Gold and Roses this spring, but not since then. I just would hate to see him continually slide down the ladder until he's running in allowance races in front of 2,000 degenerages (said in the nicest terms possible because I'm one of them) at Aqueduct on some Thursday afternoon.. Whether he 'likes' running or not, well nobody can know for sure - maybe he's just too professional to give up, but perhaps he would be best served in a pasture somewhere in upstate New York (Or at the KHP) enjoying life as a horse, having little kids feed him sugar cubes and mints and running free (within the confines of a fenced in field, lol).
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:46 PM
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Thats probably true, but I honestly hate to see a multiple Grade 1 winner, a horse considered by some to be a hero - who introduced many to the game, off the board in a race restricted to NY breds. Nothing against NY-breds but I just hate to see talented horses who have lost 'it'. Funny had a string of something like 14 100+ Beyer efforts snapped last spring and now he's lucky to run a low 90's fig. He was a battler and I'll always remember that JCGC win, but now I just dont see that same fire in his eyes. I saw it in the race against Gold and Roses this spring, but not since then. I just would hate to see him continually slide down the ladder until he's running in allowance races in front of 2,000 degenerages (said in the nicest terms possible because I'm one of them) at Aqueduct on some Thursday afternoon.. Whether he 'likes' running or not, well nobody can know for sure - maybe he's just too professional to give up, but perhaps he would be best served in a pasture somewhere in upstate New York (Or at the KHP) enjoying life as a horse, having little kids feed him sugar cubes and mints and running free (within the confines of a fenced in field, lol).
I thought he looked pretty game... it's not like he stopped running. At least he was running at the end (although that apparently means nothing.)
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:09 AM
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1993 Stallion register for Danzig (1977):

at 2, Won a maiden race at Belmont Park (5 1/2 furlongs, by 8 1/2)
At 3, Won an allowance race at Aqueduct (6 furlongs, by 7 1/2)
Won an allowance race at Belmont Park (7 furlongs, by 5 3/4)

Saw him at Claiborne a few years back. That knee had an enormous bump in the side of it (screws?). He was a laid-back sort of oldster who let us pet him and fuss over him. But if he was 15.3 like the stallion register says, I'll eat my hat. His dad Northern Dancer was advertised at the same height, probably thick shoes and a mat underneath when they measured. Why the prejudice against small horses, when some of the best are smallish?
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:20 AM
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1993 Stallion register for Danzig (1977):

at 2, Won a maiden race at Belmont Park (5 1/2 furlongs, by 8 1/2)
At 3, Won an allowance race at Aqueduct (6 furlongs, by 7 1/2)
Won an allowance race at Belmont Park (7 furlongs, by 5 3/4)

Saw him at Claiborne a few years back. That knee had an enormous bump in the side of it (screws?). He was a laid-back sort of oldster who let us pet him and fuss over him. But if he was 15.3 like the stallion register says, I'll eat my hat. His dad Northern Dancer was advertised at the same height, probably thick shoes and a mat underneath when they measured. Why the prejudice against small horses, when some of the best are smallish?
You were too busy checking out that bump on his knee to notice his missing eye?

Danzig and " laid back " in the same sentence?????? Methinks you were shown the wrong horse.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:45 PM
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You were too busy checking out that bump on his knee to notice his missing eye?

Danzig and " laid back " in the same sentence?????? Methinks you were shown the wrong horse.
his eye wasn't missing, he injured it with a splinter, and it clouded over.

and his knee was probably bumpy due to injuries and arthritis. just like genuine risk, her knee is huge--she got loose at the track and ran into a fire hydrant--that was why she retired.
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