Dr Roman tabs Master of Hounds in Derby

[reese]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I hope Dr. Romans didn't read Mike Welschs Clocker report from this morning, he said the horse looks stiff and dull.

Team Valor is another one of those syndicates that just like to go to the Derby regardless of the condition of the horse.

I saw Dr Greenfield almost "collapse from fright or anxiety" at the 2001 Belmont Stakes.

I was sitting about 20 feet diagonally behind the starting gate almost on the rail for the 2001 Belmont. The sound from the grandstand was deafening....sounded like a coming tornedo...the ground was shaking from the reverberation of 100,000 people screaming and pounding.
Dr. Greenfield was shaking so hard, I though he was going to "die of fright". He had a hard time loading into the gate and never did get off well.
Poor thing was a skinny guy too boot.
Anyone with eyes could see this horse was ill prepared for this race. And the Team Valor syndicate had scores of people running around with stethascopes around necks

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by reese

Team Valor is another one of those syndicates that just like to go to the Derby regardless of the condition of the horse.

I saw Dr Greenfield almost "collapse from fright or anxiety" at the 2001 Belmont Stakes.

I was sitting about 20 feet diagonally behind the starting gate almost on the rail for the 2001 Belmont. The sound from the grandstand was deafening....sounded like a coming tornedo...the ground was shaking from the reverberation of 100,000 people screaming and pounding.
Dr. Greenfield was shaking so hard, I though he was going to "die of fright". He had a hard time loading into the gate and never did get off well.
Poor thing was a skinny guy too boot.
Anyone with eyes could see this horse was ill prepared for this race. And the Team Valor syndicate had scores of people running around with stethascopes around necks

.......was at the 04 belmont, so loud down the stretch it hurt your ears. then it went kinda silent when SJ got passed.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

.......was at the 04 belmont, so loud down the stretch it hurt your ears. then it went kinda silent when SJ got passed.

Got real quiet at my house as well, can't tell you how much I was rooting for him...wasn't a matter of bets...I only had a few bucks invested, but I had followed him since the beginning!

[joeydb]

That Dosage Index stuff does have a decent, if not perfect record, right?

[slotdirt]

It does? When was the last time a "dual qualifier" won the Derby?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

It does? When was the last time a "dual qualifier" won the Derby?

Various aspects of his research have fallen out of favor, dual qualifiers lost their edge with so many precocious 2yo's who didn't hold their form at three. DI/CD guidelines have suffered again largely due to breeding practices. Keep in mind that dosage was not developed as a handicapping tool. The angle of a horse needing 16 points in DP still remains strong with no horse winning since 1950. His PF's are a valuable tool in major stake races. All in all, this stuff can be used as one of many tools, keeping in mind that no angle is foolproof.

[tector]

Good to hear. Now, do you have the views of Dr. Seuss, Dr. Strangelove and Dr. Vinny Boombotz?

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The angle of a horse needing 16 points in DP still remains strong with no horse winning since 1950.

There is no angle. This is the same BS that dosage was 20 years ago.
Take a result, find a number that fits the result without any consideration of the percentage of runners that fall above or below the number and give no credit to runners who may have been below the level and ran a good race.

When Middleground won the derby suddenly it was apparent that 16 was the number for the DP and his victory was an abberation.17 is a good number but the problem with 17 is that while someone was scanning through the results of the last 50 years 17 came up quite a few times and that would not fit the system.

Now if it was proven that >16 runners consistently outperformed <16 runners for 2nd,3rd etc., then the DP may have some merit. Until someone shows me proof of that it's nothing more than voodoo.