10:30pm Sunday Night President's Having a Press Conference?

[Riot]

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

Thankfully they couldn't, this had to be a consideration for the President and his advisers...guess they were aware of this weakness.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Thankfully they couldn't, this had to be a consideration for the President and his advisers...guess they were aware of this weakness.

I know they said that is why they wanted the mission limited to 30 minutes (it took 35 or 40 I think having to go to plan B with the helicopter down) - but they had expected at least for air defense to be launched by that time. It wasn't that I've read?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

I know they said that is why they wanted the mission limited to 30 minutes (it took 35 or 40 I think having to go to plan B with the helicopter down) - but they had expected at least for air defense to be launched by that time. It wasn't that I've read?

No, there is no evidence that it was...of course there is a possibility that the "right people" were advised to stand down. This like other aspects of the presence of OBL in a luxury estate will come out much later if at all. I would like to give the government of Pakistan the benefit of the doubt due to the sensitive nature of the entire operation.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

. I would like to give the government of Pakistan the benefit of the doubt .

Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?

What in the world does that have to do with this discussion???

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

What in the world does that have to do with this discussion???

It has to do with the people you're giving the benefit of the doubt to. ie Paki's

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?

Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?

[Riot]

I posted this on the poll thread:

If you want photos, Reuters has some here and is making a claim (not of bin Laden, but of two others there in the compound)

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?

How did I insult inteligence?

And I'm not starting fights, just pointing out the country both of you seem to want to give the benefit of the doubt to is largely filled with men that would be considered animals by American standards.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?

You should take your own advice.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

No we're all too busy noticing Pakistan must have been harboring bin Laden.

This comment is almost as odd as 'she'll be OK' or 'Carter has a deep understanding'.

You are a bit off!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No we're all too busy noticing Pakistan must have been harboring bin Laden.

This comment is almost as odd as 'she'll be OK' or 'Carter has a deep understanding'.

You are a bit off!

Whats odd about it? It's a statement of fact compared to an accusation yet unproven.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Whats odd about it? It's a statement of fact compared to an accusation yet unproven.

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

I wish you could understand the words other people write.

Yes, we didn't tell the Pakis were were there. That is the point. That is why I find it so odd that, after 30-40 minutes, they still had not mustered any response an air incursion over their territory, to their military academy.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

They scrambled jets, just were too late. Why is this even a concern?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

They scrambled jets, just were too late. Why is this even a concern?

Not a huge concern just interesting fact.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

It's not conjecture we DIDN'T TRUST THEM and raided their country w/o their knowledge. That's fact.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It's not conjecture we DIDN'T TRUST THEM and raided their country w/o their knowledge. That's fact.

True (at least as far as we know) but it's a big jump from that statement to the accusation they were harboring OBL.