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Old 04-26-2011, 06:57 AM
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I think a "twilight" Derby is definitely going to happen in the next few years. Now, whether a 7:38 post is "primetime" or not is another discussion.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:35 AM
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"If it ain't broke don't fix it."

The Kentucky Derby model is far from broken, in my opinion. It should remain as it is.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:39 AM
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"If it ain't broke don't fix it."

The Kentucky Derby model is far from broken, in my opinion. It should remain as it is.
Agreed that's it's not broken, but is there a chance of making it better?
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:51 AM
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Agreed that's it's not broken, but is there a chance of making it better?
That's a fair question. If the goal is to increase tv viewers, I'm not sold that an 8 or 9 o'clock post time would accomplish that. Speaking for myself, a 5 or 6 PM post time best meshes with the popular Derby Day party concept, something with which I am quite enamored.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:25 AM
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That's a fair question. If the goal is to increase tv viewers, I'm not sold that an 8 or 9 o'clock post time would accomplish that. Speaking for myself, a 5 or 6 PM post time best meshes with the popular Derby Day party concept, something with which I am quite enamored.
Yeah, but wouldn't parties function just as well into Saturday night?
Don't forget about the West Coast, the Derby goes off in the middle of the afternoon. I would think that you would pick up more viewers out there by having a later post time. Personally for me, I would have less of a chance on seeing the race if it was dead set in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.

The concept that intrigues me is that a network could really dedicate a time block and show more than the Derby to the public. The key is, to make it more about handicapping/racing than fluff pieces.
Maybe they can guarentee some sort of super pick 4 pool and then show all of the involving races.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:35 AM
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Yeah, but wouldn't parties function just as well into Saturday night?
Don't forget about the West Coast, the Derby goes off in the middle of the afternoon. I would think that you would pick up more viewers out there by having a later post time. Personally for me, I would have less of a chance on seeing the race if it was dead set in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.
Again, that's a fair statement. Derby parties notwithstanding, I guess what it comes down to for me is that the Kentucky Derby is an event unto itself, a decidedly traditional event, and I'm more concerned about the event itself than how TV covers it. Derby Day is Derby Day, and I don't want it to change to Derby Night just to (perhaps) pick up some viewers.

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The concept that intrigues me is that a network could really dedicate a time block and show more than the Derby to the public. The key is, to make it more about handicapping/racing than fluff pieces.
Maybe they can guarentee some sort of super pick 4 pool and then show all of the involving races.
TV producers seem to believe that viewers tuning into to Derby Day coverage want to see the fluff, as evidenced by them showing anything but the Woodford Reserve. Man, that steams me. Only during the BC coverage was a little more than casual attention paid to handicapping. I suppose that's what we get in the era of "reality tv" (which is anything but reality).
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That's a fair question. If the goal is to increase tv viewers, I'm not sold that an 8 or 9 o'clock post time would accomplish that. Speaking for myself, a 5 or 6 PM post time best meshes with the popular Derby Day party concept, something with which I am quite enamored.
You can't teach an OldDog new tricks, I suppose.
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Will we ever get to see the Woodford Reserve?? My ADW doesn't show it for contractual reasons and the network that is the reason for the contractual reasons failed to show it 2 years in a row.
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I think it's a great idea, but I'm not sure from a "security" standpoint if that would work, releasing 150,000K after dark. The vast majority of people park away from the track. Churchill's lot is not all that large: so most folks park in the surrounding neighborhoods. The other thing is the infield. Unless you bathe that in light, it may be hard to see to get around (and wager) etc: it's difficult enough during the day: the windows don't have the best lighting. I've attended 40 plus Derbies in my lifetime, and while it's a great day, at around 7p, you're ready to leave.
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