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[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course comparing a guy who started 82 games with a guy who was injured most of the year and only played 450 minutes and saying their stats were the same kinda makes one wonder if you are drinking or channeling Dr Roman's numbers into basketball form

I laughed a lot.

[dalakhani]

Bogans is a starter in name only. If you watch Chicago play sometime, you will see brewer gets most of the minutes.

Bogans and delonte have similar stats in this year's playoffs as well Charles. I laughed at that whole paragraph. How can you bash bogans and use stats to back it up and then turn around and defend delonte who has the same stats? Please explain. Perhaps you have created your own performance ratings dr Shell

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Bogans is a starter in name only. If you watch Chicago play sometime, you will see brewer gets most of the minutes.

Bogans and delonte have similar stats in this year's playoffs as well Charles. I laughed at that whole paragraph. How can you bash bogans and use stats to back it up and then turn around and defend delonte who has the same stats? Please explain. Perhaps you have created your own performance ratings dr Shell

Do you think when pointing out Bogans only plays 17 minutes a game I has somehow forgot that they play 48?

As I asked before name a NBA player that ever had a season like Bogans did. Your trying to bash West at every occasion regardless of how misguided the reasoning is doesn't chnge the fact that a team that is considered one of the favs for the title has a starter that produces at a level of a 10th man.

[dalakhani]

[quote=Cannon Shell;771001]Do you think when pointing out Bogans only plays 17 minutes a game I has somehow forgot that they play 48?

As I asked before name a NBA player that ever had a season like Bogans did. Your trying to bash West at every occasion regardless of how misguided the reasoning is doesn't chnge the fact that a team that is considered one of the favs for the title has a starter that produces at a level of a 10th man.[/QUOTE

What difference does it make who's name they call when the game starts? Bogans and West play the same amount of minutes and have basically the same role. So I guess the answer to your original question is easy: Delonte West. He is just as big a scrub.

[Cannon Shell]

[quote=dalakhani;771043]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you think when pointing out Bogans only plays 17 minutes a game I has somehow forgot that they play 48?

As I asked before name a NBA player that ever had a season like Bogans did. Your trying to bash West at every occasion regardless of how misguided the reasoning is doesn't chnge the fact that a team that is considered one of the favs for the title has a starter that produces at a level of a 10th man.[/QUOTE

What difference does it make who's name they call when the game starts? Bogans and West play the same amount of minutes and have basically the same role. So I guess the answer to your original question is easy: Delonte West. He is just as big a scrub.

SO what you are saying is that the players on the court at the end of the game doesn't matter?

I think you have been exposed to too many Wizards games....

[dalakhani]

[quote=Cannon Shell;771074]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

SO what you are saying is that the players on the court at the end of the game doesn't matter?

I think you have been exposed to too many Wizards games....

LOL Does it always have to devolve into this stupidity or can you simply concede the obvious for once?

Bogans and West have nearly identical contributions to their respective teams. Delonte West is just as much of a non-factor as Bogans and the only reason either of them play the minutes that they do is because both teams are devoid of perimeter defensive players. It is a testament to how watered down the NBA has become and it speaks to how poorly Ainge has assembled this year's team.

My point stands and if you like I can bring up the stats to back up said point.

[Cannon Shell]

[quote=dalakhani;771084]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL Does it always have to devolve into this stupidity or can you simply concede the obvious for once?

Bogans and West have nearly identical contributions to their respective teams. Delonte West is just as much of a non-factor as Bogans and the only reason either of them play the minutes that they do is because both teams are devoid of perimeter defensive players. It is a testament to how watered down the NBA has become and it speaks to how poorly Ainge has assembled this year's team.

My point stands and if you like I can bring up the stats to back up said point.

It is interesting that you can twist a conversation about the uniqueness of a situation (Bogans starting for the top team in the East and making an extraordinarily small contribution) into your usual "look at how smart I am" drivel. AND somehow when I don't "concede" your "point" you act indignant?

[Cannon Shell]

Bogans in the regular season
started all 82 games
he averaged 4.4 points per game
he made 21 FT's the entire season (65%)
he averaged less than 2 rebounds a game
he had 9 blocked shots in 82 games
he made 38 steals in 82 games
he made 91 3 point shots in 82 games
he shot 40%
he averaged 1.2 assists
he only played an average of 17.8 minutes per game which is the least amount of minutes he has averaged in his entire career save 2006-07 when he averaged 16.8. This despite never having started more than 49 games in a single season.

82 games
4.4 ppg
1.8 rebs
1.2 assists
40% fg
38% 3pt
65% FT


That is pretty powerful stuff

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Bogans in the regular season
started all 82 games
he averaged 4.4 points per game
he made 21 FT's the entire season (65%)
he averaged less than 2 rebounds a game
he had 9 blocked shots in 82 games
he made 38 steals in 82 games
he made 91 3 point shots in 82 games
he shot 40%
he averaged 1.2 assists
he only played an average of 17.8 minutes per game which is the least amount of minutes he has averaged in his entire career save 2006-07 when he averaged 16.8. This despite never having started more than 49 games in a single season.

82 games
4.4 ppg
1.8 rebs
1.2 assists
40% fg
38% 3pt
65% FT


That is pretty powerful stuff

i don't dispute that those are weak numbers. My point is that it is more common than you think to have a player in the rotation that contributes that little statistically. For a team that plays the style of the Bulls, it is even less surprising.