4/16 (KEE): G1 Blue Grass, G2 Wiley/Commonwealth, G3 Shakertown

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While they were 2 yo sprints his 2 dirt start were miserable.

Freddy at one point in this sport's not so distant past people with stables like Live Oak weren't excited to run 40-1 shots in races they really don't belong in. Not saying that they shouldn't be excited to win the Bluegrass regardless of how irrelevant the race has become.

Another pretty much unsaid factor on why we dont have any good older horses anymore is so many of them are ruined on this crusade to "qualify" for the Derby. Not necessarily the bunch in the Bluegrass because most are just pokey turf horses for the most part. Look at Crimson China. Not only has he never run on dirt, Motion never even works the horse on dirt!

Everyone wants to win the Derby and or the Breeder Cup Classic.. It is what it is nobody cares if they ruin a could be horse on the way to a shot of glory. If you have a decent colt and you have shot of being 1 of 20 in the gate that seems to be the only thing that matters.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Everyone wants to win the Derby and or the Breeder Cup Classic.. It is what it is nobody cares if they ruin a could be horse on the way to a shot of glory. If you have a decent colt and you have shot of being 1 of 20 in the gate that seems to be the only thing that matters.

Yeah but the problem is that people aren't realistic and this becomes throwing darts at the wall. If owners were a little more aggressive about running in ...well...every other race the sport would be a lot more interesting. The fact that nobody cares if they ruin horses on the path to the Derby has made the sport worse, not better especially considering that virtually all of the people doing the ruining never win it.