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Old 04-13-2011, 06:22 PM
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Haha..there isn't a chance in hell they would go through with this if it was 2008...and Big Brown was gonna be the big fav for the Derby.
are you saying that when it comes to favorites - they look the other way?
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:01 PM
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Amen Hal & CV were gonna be favored.

Im just saying that THE BID has an excellent point.....that they never would have denied him a license when he had Big Brown coming for the Derby.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:32 PM
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Amen Hal & CV were gonna be favored.

Im just saying that THE BID has an excellent point.....that they never would have denied him a license when he had Big Brown coming for the Derby.
That's completely irrelevant, as Big Brown ran 3 years ago. Now if Boys at Toscanova was still in training, and pointing to the Derby, then it might have been a little more interesting to see if they were as quick to deny him a license.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:43 PM
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That's completely irrelevant, as Big Brown ran 3 years ago. Now if Boys at Toscanova was still in training, and pointing to the Derby, then it might have been a little more interesting to see if they were as quick to deny him a license.
Perhaps you haven't noticed but the KHRA under Lisa Underwood has been very proactive. (not that I agree with many of their stances) I doubt that him training a quasi-Derby horse would matter. As a matter of fact that might have encouraged them to make this move.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:53 PM
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Perhaps you haven't noticed but the KHRA under Lisa Underwood has been very proactive. (not that I agree with many of their stances) I doubt that him training a quasi-Derby horse would matter. As a matter of fact that might have encouraged them to make this move.
If they want to give this teeth they should not allow him to transfer his horses. Any horse under his care as of the date of the suspension should not be allowed to race in Kentucky for the duration of the ban. Trainers not wanting to lose owners is lot more incentive than a suspension.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:59 PM
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If they want to give this teeth they should not allow him to transfer his horses. Any horse under his care as of the date of the suspension should not be allowed to race in Kentucky for the duration of the ban. Trainers not wanting to lose owners is lot more incentive than a suspension.
He isn't banned. He just isn't licensed. There is a big difference. The KHRA has no authority on what people do with their horses outside the state of KY.

The KHRA wouldn't grant licenses to Pat Valenzuela, Tracy Hebert and Francisco Torres for years. All of them were licensed in other states during the time KY wouldn't license them.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:14 PM
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There is a question which will ultimately be asked of KHRA that they will never be able to answer well. Why was Dutrow licensed in 2010? What are they going to say? We only license trainers with up to 57 violations not 60? And once they admit that the reason is new violations then the cat is out of the bag on procedure and precedent.. How much money are they going to waste defending their position when they have virtually no chance of suceeding..
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