The Red Sox Are Finished

[Cannon Shell]

For a team that "buys" championships Boston sure hsn't signed a bunch of huge deals

The most lucrative contracts in baseball history, by total value:
1. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17) YANKEES
2. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10) RANGERS
3. Derek Jeter, $189,000,000 (2001-10) YANKEES
4. Joe Mauer, $184,000,000 (2011-18) TWINS
5. Mark Teixeira, $180,000,000 (2009-16) YANKEES
6. CC Sabathia, $161,000,000 (2009-15) YANKEES
7. Manny Ramirez, $160,000,000 (2001-08) RED SOX
8. Troy Tulowitzki, $157,750,000 (2011-20) ROCKIES
9. Miguel Cabrera, $152,300,000 (2008-15) TIGERS
10. Carl Crawford, $142,000,000 (2011-17) REDSOX
11. Todd Helton, $141,500,000 (2003-11) ROCKIES
12. Johan Santana, $137,500,000 (2008-13) METS
13. Alfonso Soriano, $136,000,000 (2007-14) CUBS
14. Vernon Wells, $126,000,000 (2008-14) BLUE JAYS
. . . Barry Zito, $126,000,000 (2007-13) GIANTS
. . . Jayson Werth, $126,000,000 (2011-17) NATS
17. Ryan Howard, $125,000,000 (2012-16) PHILS
18. Mike Hampton, $121,000,000 (2001-08) ROCKIES
19. Jason Giambi, $120,000,000 (2002-08) YANKEES
. . . Matt Holliday, $120,000,000 (2010-16) CARDINALS
. . . Cliff Lee, $120,000,000 (2011-15) RANGERS
22. Carlos Beltran, $119,000,000 (2005-11) METS
23. Ken Griffey Jr., $116,500,000 (2000-08) REDS
24. Kevin Brown, $105,000,000 (1999-2005) DODGERS
25. Carlos Lee, $100,000,000 (2007-12) ASTROS
. . . Albert Pujols, $100,000,000 (2004-10) CARDS
27. Carlos Zambrano, $91,500,000 (2008-12) CUBS
28. Mike Piazza, $91,000,000 (1999-2005) METS
. . . Barry Bonds, $90,000,000 (2002-06) GIANTS
. . . Torii Hunter, $90,000,000 (2008-12) ANGELS
. . . Chipper Jones, $90,000,000 (2001-06) BRAVES
. . . Scott Rolen, $90,000,000 (2003-10) PHILS
. . . Ichiro Suzuki, $90,000,000 (2008-12) MARINERS

There seems to be one team in particular with 4 of the top 6 contracts in history AND they wound up paying one of the other ones anyway.


Like I said Boston isn't cheap but since 2004 they have done more with way less money than the Yankees have. "Buying a championship"? The Marlins bought a title and disbanded the team twice. 2 years ago the Yankees spent close to 700 million to resign ARod then the next year bring in CC, Tex and Burnett. That would qualify.

[Cannon Shell]

When you look at it like this it is even more apparent...

Average annual value
The highest-paid players in baseball history, by average annual value:
1. Roger Clemens, $28,000,022 (2007) Yankees
2. Alex Rodriguez, $27,500,000 (2008-17) YAnkees
3. Alex Rodriguez, $25,200,000 (2001-10) TEx/Yankees
4. Ryan Howard, $25,000,000 (2012-16) Philly
5. Cliff Lee, $24,000,000 (2011-15) Philly
6. Joe Mauer, $23,000,000 (2011-18) Minn
. . . CC Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15) Yankees
8. Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13)Mets
9. Manny Ramirez, $22,500,000 (2009-10) Dodgers
. . . Mark Teixeira, $22,500,000 (2009-16)Yankees
11. Roger Clemens, $22,000,022 (2006) Yankees
12. Carl Crawford, $20,285,714 (2011-17) Red Sox
13. Manny Ramirez, $20,000,000 (2001-08) Red Sox
. . . Roy Halladay, $20,000,000 (2011-13) Philly
15. Miguel Cabrera, $19,037,500 (2008-15) Tigers
16. Derek Jeter, $18,900,000 (2001-10) Yankees
17. Carlos Zambrano, $18,300,000 (2008-12) Cubs
18. Andruw Jones, $18,100,000 (2008-09) Dodgers
19. Barry Bonds, $18,000,000 (2002-06) Giants
. . . Roger Clemens, $18,000,000 (2005) Houston
. . . Ryan Howard, $18,000,000 (2009-11) Phily
. . . Torii Hunter, $18,000,000 (2008-12) Angels
. . . Sammy Sosa, $18,000,000 (2002-05)Cubs
. . . Ichiro Suzuki, $18,000,000 (2008-12) Mariners
. . . Vernon Wells, $18,000,000 (2008-14) Blue jays
. . . Jayson Werth, $18,000,000 (2007-14)Nats
. . . Barry Zito, $18,000,000 (2007-13) Giants
28. Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12) White sox
29. Jason Giambi, $17,142,857 (2002-08) Yankees
. . . Matt Holliday, $17,142,857 (2010-16) CArds
31. Jeff Bagwell, $17,000,000 (2002-06) Astros
. . . Carlos Beltran, $17,000,000 (2005-11) Mets
. . . Carlos Delgado, $17,000,000 (2001-04) Mets
. . . Alfonso Soriano, $17,000,000 (2007-14 Cubs

[dalakhani]

Who is comparing anything to the yankees? You are making your own argument there...which is nothing new. The only comparison I drew was between the dynasties and the delusional sox nation.


My point is that the Red Sox spend a lot of money and buy their world series titles. You are trying to disprove this point by...comparing them to the f ucking yankees? LOL That would be like you saying that you are thin and comparing yourself to the butterbean.

Chuck- YOU ARE RIGHT. The Red Sox spend less money than the yankees.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Who is comparing anything to the yankees? You are making your own argument there...which is nothing new. The only comparison I drew was between the dynasties and the delusional sox nation.


My point is that the Red Sox spend a lot of money and buy their world series titles. You are trying to disprove this point by...comparing them to the f ucking yankees? LOL That would be like you saying that you are thin and comparing yourself to the butterbean.

Chuck- YOU ARE RIGHT. The Red Sox spend less money than the yankees.

Well who exactly says that anybody other than the Yankees "buys" championships? Who should i compare them to? The Mariners?

No I am pointing out that the Red Sox dont spend that much more than many of the other contenders. Saying that everyone "buys" a championship is stupid and ignores good management. Sure the Red Sox can afford a mistake more than a mid market team but the team that won the title in 2004 or 07 was hardly a "bought" team any more than the White Sox were in 05 or the Cardinals in 06 or the Phis in 08 or the Giants last year. The Yankees in 2009? Considering they had 4 of the 6 highest players in history on that team...well you know.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well who exactly says that anybody other than the Yankees "buys" championships? Who should i compare them to? The Mariners?

No I am pointing out that the Red Sox dont spend that much more than many of the other contenders. Saying that everyone "buys" a championship is stupid and ignores good management. Sure the Red Sox can afford a mistake more than a mid market team but the team that won the title in 2004 or 07 was hardly a "bought" team any more than the White Sox were in 05 or the Cardinals in 06 or the Phis in 08 or the Giants last year. The Yankees in 2009? Considering they had 4 of the 6 highest players in history on that team...well you know.

Do you really want me to pull out the 2004 roster and how those guys were acquired or will you spare me this lesson in futility? How many homegrown players were on that 2004 squad? Lets not be silly chuckers.

[dino]

Probably a little too early for this prediction. When your main competition in the division has one starting pitcher (CC) there's always room for a comeback.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Do you really want me to pull out the 2004 roster and how those guys were acquired or will you spare me this lesson in futility? How many homegrown players were on that 2004 squad? Lets not be silly chuckers.

So signing Ortiz for peanuts after he was released, signing Wakefield after he was released for the ML min, buying Millars contract for 3 million, picking up Bellhorn for nothing, getting Varitek as a throw in in a trade, signing Mueller for 2 million a year or less than he was making the previous year, signing Foulke for 3 million, and trading for Pedro and Shilling is "buying" a championship?

Give me a break. They won with 1 big FA signing on the team, Manny. Try to spin the Pedro or Schilling trades all you want but they gave up players for them and didnt pay them more than market value. 3 starting pitchers Lowe, Wakefield and Arroyo won 36 games between them and made less than 9 million combined.

Acting like the 2004 team was "bought" ignores the facts.

The 05 White Sox had 4 players that played significant time Thomas, Crede, Rowand and Beuhrle that were "homegrown". Is anyone saying they "bought" a championship?

[The Bid]

Post the Indians payroll because they are going to win the world series