Illinois becomes 16th state to ban death penalty

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Note the comments posted below the article...the common theme, limit the appeal process, kill them faster!

It may be what the pro-deathers want, but it's not going to happen. States are going for the cheaper way.

But, that was not my reasoning. Take someone like Robert Hanssen who is in max. security 23 hours a day for the rest of his life. He plea bargained to escape the death penalty. I wonder if he thinks he made the right decision. I just can't imagine what his life must be like, but maybe he thinks living longer is better than meeting his maker. Supposedly, he was a deeply religious man. LOL!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

It may be what the pro-deathers want, but it's not going to happen. States are going for the cheaper way.

But, that was not my reasoning. Take someone like Robert Hanssen who is in max. security 23 hours a day for the rest of his life. He plea bargained to escape the death penalty. I wonder if he thinks he made the right decision. I just can't imagine what his life must be like, but maybe he thinks living longer is better than meeting his maker. Supposedly, he was a deeply religious man. LOL!

Yeah, there is no way of knowing which punishment is worse, I suspect that again it depends on the individual...some folks can probably adapt to being confined to a cell while others will quickly find themselves praying for death. I saw evidence of this in my years working in prisons. I wonder though, what does it say that folks who are against the death penalty feel obligated to argue that they are supporting a worse fate?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yeah, there is no way of knowing which punishment is worse, I suspect that again it depends on the individual...some folks can probably adapt to being confined to a cell while others will quickly find themselves praying for death. I saw evidence of this in my years working in prisons. I wonder though, what does it say that folks who are against the death penalty feel obligated to argue that they are supporting a worse fate?

Here is a good example of someone who clearly is having the time of his life behind bars. Life w/o parole was a gift for this animal. I'm against the death penalty,(out of distrust of the legal system), but I'd personally pull the lever for a lot of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slm_YDzx4vI

[Danzig]

16 down, 34 to go...

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

16 down, 34 to go...

more will follow for economic reasons, sadly few for moral ones.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

more will follow for economic reasons, sadly few for moral ones.

are you implying that people who support the death penalty do not have morals?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

are you implying that people who support the death penalty do not have morals?

no...I completely understand why many folks are supportive of the death penalty and would never say they are lacking in morals. Morality in a gray world takes different paths...all I'm saying is that I wish if it is abolished it would be because folks do so because they feel it's the right thing to do, not to save a buck!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

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FTFY