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Old 03-19-2011, 11:57 AM
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its a good point but what you leave out is the democrats are the same way.....there are no values in either party. sure they run their mouths but look at the results. the reason we are in big trouble is BOTH parties. if you were raised republican or democrat and you still believe in either....you are sort of a moron.......just take a look around and watch how both operate.! there are a few good ones in each party that tell the truth....but they are mouthpieces and the party elite will never let them win........watch how far ron paul and denis kucinich go in their respective parties....one is a die hard conservative the other a liberal.....but they pretty much tell the same story....gee, i wonder why? because its the truth and the corporations(plus the FED) and either party would never have it.............its called CORPORATE RULE. the most obvious was the bailout fiasco.....NO ONE WAS CHARGED WITH A THING???? they got bonuses for wrecking the economy. gee, i wonder why? which party did a thing about it? now they can contribute unlimited amounts of money to campaigns....yeah, things are going to be peachy for years to come......lol..lol. you are talking about a time (1956)when at least both parties thought about the PEOPLE........thats long gone folks, unless people wake up and force the issue...but they are dumb(don't know they're being separated by two corrupt parties) and lazy as we fall like Greece or Rome....read a history book.......this is how every empire fell.....hopefully i'll be gone before it happens but i have kids and a grand kid.
i left out the guy in vermont....sanders??? independant, that guy they paint as a commie or socialist because he says the people are getting screwed....keep believing the media and his opponents.....hes a commie the "people" are getting great deal......yeah ok....i'm buying that crap.....
I have to agree...I usually support the Democrat because I believe that generally speaking, they are the lesser of two evils but both parties are married to the status quo....feed the rich and let the poor starve. Slowly the middle class is disappearing and becoming the working poor and yet folks believe that balancing the budget on the backs of those who can least afford it while letting the rich get richer is the way to go.
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the lesser of two evils is still evil. the two party system is broken, it's been broken. this country goes back and forth between the two, looking for someone to fix our problems. yeah, that's working well.
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:23 PM
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the lesser of two evils is still evil. the two party system is broken, it's been broken. this country goes back and forth between the two, looking for someone to fix our problems. yeah, that's working well.
No argument from me!
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:52 PM
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No argument from me!
Prior to Obama, the last candidate that excited me was George McGovern, I enthusiastically supported him. Bobby Kennedy showed promise as he was apparently willing to go left of his brother. I felt that Obama was important as his election would prove to us that indeed the "American dream" was more than words. I knew from the beginning that his middle of the road politics would disappoint me but I felt the symbolism was extremely important. I was originally a supporter of Hillary for much the same reason, and I still feel she would have made a better President...unfortunately it appears that she is resigned to never attaining the position. So, our next President will be either a conservative Republican or a middle of the road Democrat...and the status quo will continue. This is the will of the American people...we get what we deserve.
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the lesser of two evils is still evil. the two party system is broken, it's been broken. this country goes back and forth between the two, looking for someone to fix our problems. yeah, that's working well.
Independents are free to run. They can't make it past primaries.
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Independents are free to run. They can't make it past primaries.
i'm aware of that. we still only have two parties because most folks still cling to one or the other, when neither is worth clinging to!
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i'm aware of that. we still only have two parties because most folks still cling to one or the other, when neither is worth clinging to!
Voters want the right to vote, but don't generally much care to fulfill their end of the bargain by learning about the candidates.
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i'm aware of that. we still only have two parties because most folks still cling to one or the other, when neither is worth clinging to!
do you think italian voters are happier?

more choice just leads to more choices, not necessarily better choices.

you still have to deal with the fact that governing with a majority means compromise. and we seem to be well on our way to that being a laughably archaic political tactic.

we have the best government any bi-polar electorate could expect. we want benefits but we don't want taxes. we want world influence but the sacrifice has to be made by others.

i'm surprised things are still working out as well as they do. we don't deserve better. my generation and those after have earned far less than what we have.
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