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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Those guys are NBA sized players for their respective positions. Tyler is 6-9. Reddick is 6-4 (short but not ridiculously short) and Blair is a wide body 6-8. Fredette is a 6-2 2 guard. He is not fast enough to cover an NBA 1 or big enough to cover a 2. He will be too slow to get in the lane against 1's and will be buillied by 2's.

I think he compares to a whole slew of guys over the years like hopson, respert, alford, hoiberg (great nickname), rodney monroe...the list goes on forever. Not the same position but how much of a bust was adam morrison? Again, two slow to beat 3's and too weak to play 4.

If you aren't "nba sized", you better be really athletic to be able to get a shot off in the big leagues. Jimmer is kind of like a tweener guard. I don't care if he can shoot to 40 feet, if he can't get the shot off and can't cover, he isn't going to play.

Blair is not 6'8", closer to 6"6"
No one is making the argument that JF is going to be a really good player but unlike those guys listed he can score and if Eddie House can play 10 years in the NBA, JF can make it too. Hell Steve Nash is an abysmal defensive player and he is a shoo in hall of famer.

[Cannon Shell]

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His defense fits in perfectly!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Blair is not 6'8", closer to 6"6"
No one is making the argument that JF is going to be a really good player but unlike those guys listed he can score and if Eddie House can play 10 years in the NBA, JF can make it too. Hell Steve Nash is an abysmal defensive player and he is a shoo in hall of famer.

Blair has an nba body. The only reason he slipped so bad was his physical.

Which one of those players listed couldn't score?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Blair has an nba body. The only reason he slipped so bad was his physical.

Which one of those players listed couldn't score?

Blair is short for his position. He gets a lot of props but he is averaging 8 points and 7 rebounds a game. Not bad but if he had been a lottery pick no one would be touting him very much.

None of those players are scoring threats except in the flow of an offense. In other words as long as they arent the primary option. JF can score effectively in many ways.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Blair is short for his position. He gets a lot of props but he is averaging 8 points and 7 rebounds a game. Not bad but if he had been a lottery pick no one would be touting him very much.

None of those players are scoring threats except in the flow of an offense. In other words as long as they arent the primary option. JF can score effectively in many ways.

Blair starts for the number one team in the west. He is short but wide and athletic. Big baby is the same way. He is a solid nba player. I don't know how he was compared to fredette but that is a weird comparison that really makes no sense. I don't remember you bringing him in so let's drop blair.

The last paragraph there makes no real sense either. Alford couldn't score in many ways? Respert couldn't? Morrison? Monroe?

Those guys weren't the primary options in college?? Morrison wasn't???

Fredette is the backcourt Adam morrison.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Blair starts for the number one team in the west. He is short but wide and athletic. Big baby is the same way. He is a solid nba player. I don't know how he was compared to fredette but that is a weird comparison that really makes no sense. I don't remember you bringing him in so let's drop blair.

The last paragraph there makes no real sense either. Alford couldn't score in many ways? Respert couldn't? Morrison? Monroe?

Those guys weren't the primary options in college?? Morrison wasn't???

Fredette is the backcourt Adam morrison.

There is a reason why Blair's minutes are heavily monitored. He may start but he usually plays less than half the game and that probably wont change much.

None of those players could score in the NBA. There is no reason why Fredette can't. He could easily work as a change of pace guy off the bench in the right system. Morrison was just too slow and didnt have nearly enough range to make up for it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is a reason why Blair's minutes are heavily monitored. He may start but he usually plays less than half the game and that probably wont change much.

None of those players could score in the NBA. There is no reason why Fredette can't. He could easily work as a change of pace guy off the bench in the right system. Morrison was just too slow and didnt have nearly enough range to make up for it.

How do you know fredette can score in the NBA? Respert, Morrison and hopson were all better prospects and were lottery picks in deeper drafts. They were all dominant scorers and the primary focus of their respective offenses in college. Respert was 6 1 195 and quicker than fredette who is 6 2 195.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How do you know fredette can score in the NBA? Respert, Morrison and hopson were all better prospects and were lottery picks in deeper drafts. They were all dominant scorers and the primary focus of their respective offenses in college. Respert was 6 1 195 and quicker than fredette who is 6 2 195.

It is pretty obvious that the guy can shoot the ball. He not only has range, he can hit the mid range shot, stopping on a dime. That is a pretty easily assimilated skill.

Respert? The guy couldnt shoot off the dribble and didn't have the luxury of getting 4 or 5 layups a game like he did in college . Morrison? Hopson? I mean really? Using failed "prospects" as examples of why a completely different guy won't make it is an unusual tactic. Why was Respert a bust when Eric Snow his backcourt teammate who was picked 43rd in the same draft wasn't (relatively) despite being slower and a lot less skilled player?