My theory and feelings on Polytrack

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

So, what if Storm Cats and A.P. Indys don't like it? Do we now stand them for $5K stud fee and weed then out of the Thoroughbred chain?

Why should we have to dillute and re-tool our breeding to tailor it to a new surface? It is going to screw up the legacy and classic bloodlines of our industrys greats - wrecking tradition after tradition and screwing with our history and heritage....

I strongly disagree with you....I don't want our breed to change - the same way as I don't want 5'5" 160-pound guys excelling in football if the NFL were to hypothetically change their surface of playing field from grass or artificial turf to playing on cotton pillows, would you?

Maybe Lemon Drops Kid will be the leading sire on that crap and Storm Cat will become an after-thought...do you really want that to happen?

If anyone doesn't realize that this will have horrible impacts on the breeding industry, they are mistaken.
You crash the bloodstock market Pgard, and you will crash the whole game.
The reality is that the residual value is the only way you can win as an owner. You dilute the whole bloodstock market and crash the prices, you cansay goodbye to everyone but the Sheikhs and Coolmore. Noone else can afford to piss away money like that. Do you know how few yearlings purchased for over 100 grand ever earn themselves out BEFORE the additional expenses? Take away the hope on the back end, and you got nothing.

Originally Posted by oracle80

If anyone doesn't realize that this will have horrible impacts on the breeding industry, they are mistaken.
You crash the bloodstock market Pgard, and you will crash the whole game.
The reality is that the residual value is the only way you can win as an owner. You dilute the whole bloodstock market and crash the prices, you cansay goodbye to everyone but the Sheikhs and Coolmore. Noone else can afford to piss away money like that. Do you know how few yearlings purchased for over 100 grand ever earn themselves out BEFORE the additional expenses? Take away the hope on the back end, and you got nothing.

Im sorry but I cant forsee markets like you can. I am not MR. Wallstreet. Did dirt racing ruin turf racing?

Originally Posted by pgardn

Im sorry but I cant forsee markets like you can. I am not MR. Wallstreet. Did dirt racing ruin turf racing?

It wasn't a BUSINESS back then like it is now. If you don't realize that, there is no point in discussing it.

Originally Posted by oracle80

It wasn't a BUSINESS back then like it is now. If you don't realize that, there is no point in discussing it.

Wait a minute. It was not/is not a business in Europe, Japan, and Hong Kong? Holy sh it you got a story. You guys are digging in deeper.

[quote=pgardn]Wait a minute. It was not/is not a business in Europe, Japan, and Hong Kong? Holy sh it you got a story. You guys are digging in deeper.[/Q
When did they switch to all dirt racing? You are over your head Patrick. What you know about this business you could write on the back of a postage stamp and have room left over.
If you care to debate any specific fine point of it, you'll get mulched.

[quote=oracle80]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Wait a minute. It was not/is not a business in Europe, Japan, and Hong Kong? Holy sh it you got a story. You guys are digging in deeper.[/Q
When did they switch to all dirt racing? You are over your head Patrick. What you know about this business you could write on the back of a postage stamp and have room left over.
If you care to debate any specific fine point of it, you'll get mulched.

I dont need to debate any fine point. You just dissed a poster about injuries on a football field, and then did the same thing yourself with horses. Logic. How much of that fits on the back of a postage stamp?

And its guys like you who get stuck in ruts and cant handle change...you my friend will be the odd man out. If you cant roll with the punches, get out of the ring. I personally do not have a conclusive opinion about the stuff as I said before. You do. So write your story bud. And quit writing stuff that I did not post.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Im sorry but I cant forsee markets like you can. I am not MR. Wallstreet. Did dirt racing ruin turf racing?

Turf racing in the United States is comparable to the bench of a basketball team. The stars play on the dirt. Changing all of the dirt tracks to poly is like the NBA installing clay courts.

[disrespectnfool]

Originally Posted by oracle80

If anyone doesn't realize that this will have horrible impacts on the breeding industry, they are mistaken.
You crash the bloodstock market Pgard, and you will crash the whole game.
The reality is that the residual value is the only way you can win as an owner. You dilute the whole bloodstock market and crash the prices, you cansay goodbye to everyone but the Sheikhs and Coolmore. Noone else can afford to piss away money like that. Do you know how few yearlings purchased for over 100 grand ever earn themselves out BEFORE the additional expenses? Take away the hope on the back end, and you got nothing.

the "greeding" industry will kill this game before polytrack gets close.