Democracy In Egypt

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You're an idiot, Dell. I'm glad she wasn't killed. She's alive, and lucky to be so, and lucky to get out of the hospital. I wasn't making light of her attack.

There were other reporters there, who were taken by the police, held and beaten.

You think all those protesters were Muslim Brotherhood? If so, you're clueless.

You guys who want to slam all Egyptians because of what happened to that poor reporter, but fail to acknowledge violent people can be everywhere - that's what's despicable. That was no "excuse", Dell, it's true. But let's not let that get in the way of hating Muslims. Even the ones that saved her from her attackers.

And you're an insensitive biatch. Tell us again how she's all right? Tell me when 200 anybody assaulted a reporter in this country. Tell us how the protesters are so peaceful and the Muslim Brotherhood (In Egypt) does not want to form a political party. And for you to think this woman is anything but f'd for life proves who's the idiot. At least in American eyes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And you're an insensitive biatch. Tell us again how she's all right? Tell me when 200 anybody assaulted a reporter in this country. Tell us how the protesters are so peaceful and the Muslim Brotherhood (In Egypt) does not want to form a political party. And for you to think this woman is anything but f'd for life proves who's the idiot. At least in American eyes.

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right. I wasn't making light of her attack. I'm horrified at what happened to her, and at the other reporter who was killed, and at all the reporters who were beaten.

And I'm not the one here taking the horrible attack on Lara, and using her attack as political fodder to support their Islamophobia and hate. Talk about insensitive jackasses using the misery of others to justify their hate. It's appalling and pathetic, this occurring in this day and age in America.

[Princess Doreen]

I wish many more moderate Muslims would speak out against the barbaric customs of their "religion". Why don't they? Probably afraid they'd be auffed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

I wish many more moderate Muslims would speak out against the barbaric customs of their "religion". Why don't they? Probably afraid they'd be auffed.

They do in America. For example, the cultural and community center moderate Muslims were trying to re-establish in NYC. Which was greeted by some Americans as the hated "ground zero mosque", and where those moderates were threatened by hate and being offed by some. Sad.

In Egypt the Muslim and the Christian populations get alone well, and respect each other. When Mubarak's policemen were sent in to attack the protesters and newsmen for those 48 hours, the Christians formed rings around the Muslims as they stopped to pray in public, to protect them from attack while they prayed.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

They do in America. For example, the cultural and community center moderate Muslims were trying to re-establish in NYC. Which was greeted by some Americans as the hated "ground zero mosque", and where those moderates were threatened by hate and being offed by some. Sad.

In Egypt the Muslim and the Christian populations get alone well, and respect each other. When Mubarak's policemen were sent in to attack the protesters and newsmen for those 48 hours, the Christians formed rings around the Muslims as they stopped to pray in public, to protect them from attack while they prayed.

Yeah, the Middle East is just like Disney World...as long as you aren't a woman or a minority.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yeah, the Middle East is just like Disney World...as long as you aren't a woman or a minority.

I never said that, nor implied it, nor do I think it. All middle east countries are not the same, but none are like the United States.

You have a younger generation who, amazingly, successfully and peacefully overthrows an entrenched 30-year dictator, it's in the interest of most in the world to try and ensure that nascent cry for democracy doesn't again go the way of Hamas. They are trying the same protests in Iran right now, and thousands are arrested, beaten, killed. Not going as Egypt did. Algeria, Yemen ....

But thinking all people of the middle east are islamic terrorists, or secret islamic terrorists, bent upon taking over the entire world, are the absurd hysterical crazy rantings of a Glenn Beck.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

I never said that, nor implied it, nor do I think it. All middle east countries are not the same, but none are like the United States.

You have a younger generation who, amazingly, successfully and peacefully overthrows an entrenched 30-year dictator, it's in the interest of most in the world to try and ensure that nascent cry for democracy doesn't again go the way of Hamas. They are trying the same protests in Iran right now, and thousands are arrested, beaten, killed. Not going as Egypt did. Algeria, Yemen ....

But thinking all people of the middle east are islamic terrorists, or secret islamic terrorists, bent upon taking over the entire world, are the absurd hysterical crazy rantings of a Glenn Beck.

You're quick to correct anyone when they put words in your mouth - don't do it to others. I never said that all Muslims are terrorists. There are moderates who, if they are true to their religion, believe in the propogation of their faith to eventually envelop the world. Big, big difference.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right.

But you did say she was okay.

Is that a lot different than all right?

[Riot]

[quote=miraja2;753096]But you did say she was okay.

I did. Okay as in: not dead, not torn to shreds, alive and safe in US custody and care. I then twice explained further what I meant by that. Which you are ignoring. So sorry for expanding upon that for those indignant readers' understanding.

Let's all also ignore the, "she totally deserved it", etc. disgusting trolling crap.

Not to mention that I'm the only poster on here who expressed any concern at all for Logan, while the subject of the thread and the words of several others here are just using Logan, co-opting her brutal attack for their Islamophobia hate campaign.

Yeah - how DARE I express happiness she's "okay", considering what could have been. Better I talk about how all Egyptians are brutal terroristic rapists when given a glimmer of democracy, and how Logan totally deserved it. Because that's okay and perfectly accepted here on Derby Trail.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah - how DARE I express happiness she's "okay", considering what could have been. Better I talk about how all Egyptians are brutal terroristic rapists when given a glimmer of democracy, and how Logan totally deserved it. Because that's okay and perfectly accepted here on Derby Trail.

Few people take a point that I basically agree with and mangle it beyond all recognition quite like you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Few people take a point that I basically agree with and mangle it beyond all recognition quite like you.

Just venting

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Few people take a point that I basically agree with and mangle it beyond all recognition quite like you.

There's no way on earth I could possibly agree with anything that Riot put in her first post in this thread. it was one of the worst posts I've ever read on Derby Trail that was written by a semi-able minded person.

It most likely was not meant in this manner.. but it came off sounding like "oh it was just 200 egyptians, don't stereotype them... this stuff happens in America all the time... glad she's okay."

The poor woman was gang raped... she's far from Okay. Alive? Yes? Okay? doubtful.

and adding this phrase: "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." was ridiculous.



Riot would have been much better off skipping this thread.

She just said what she truly feels. If nascar is a racist then so is she. It's obvious in her posts she has pent-up rage for white people.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There's no way on earth I could possibly agree with anything that Riot put in her first post in this thread. it was one of the worst posts I've ever read on Derby Trail that was written by a semi-able minded person.

It most likely was not meant in this manner.. but it came off sounding like "oh it was just 200 egyptians, don't stereotype them... this stuff happens in America all the time... glad she's okay."

The poor woman was gang raped... she's far from Okay. Alive? Yes? Okay? doubtful.

and adding this phrase: "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." was ridiculous.



Riot would have been much better off skipping this thread.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There's no way on earth I could possibly agree with anything that Riot put in her first post in this thread. it was one of the worst posts I've ever read on Derby Trail that was written by a semi-able minded person.

It most likely was not meant in this manner.. but it came off sounding like "oh it was just 200 egyptians, don't stereotype them... this stuff happens in America all the time... glad she's okay."

The poor woman was gang raped... she's far from Okay. Alive? Yes? Okay? doubtful.

and adding this phrase: "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." was ridiculous.



Riot would have been much better off skipping this thread.

And you would have been much better off, having read both my elaborations on my comments, not simply choosing to completely ignore them, and completely obviously misunderstand the second, so you could continue to diss me for something I hardly meant.

But hey - no class there, right?

The worst posts I've ever read on Derby Trail are the outright racist ones. The cursing, swearing, attack posts. The bigoted haters. Not posts expressing concern for another human. But to each his own.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There's no way on earth I could possibly agree with anything that Riot put in her first post in this thread. it was one of the worst posts I've ever read on Derby Trail that was written by a semi-able minded person.

It most likely was not meant in this manner.. but it came off sounding like "oh it was just 200 egyptians, don't stereotype them... this stuff happens in America all the time... glad she's okay."

The poor woman was gang raped... she's far from Okay. Alive? Yes? Okay? doubtful.

and adding this phrase: "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." was ridiculous.



Riot would have been much better off skipping this thread.

I took it to mean that she felt like randall's posts seemed to indicate that he was taking the actions of the rapists as representative of the entire Egyptian people while ignoring everything else that had happened in Cairo in recent weeks.
On that point, I basically agree with her.

As for saying she was "okay," it seems like Riot meant to say "I'm glad that at least they didn't kill her." I suppose that is a fair point too but, as usual, she didn't make the point very clear and then flew into attack mode when people (understandably) questioned her use of the word "okay."

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right. I wasn't making light of her attack. I'm horrified at what happened to her, and at the other reporter who was killed, and at all the reporters who were beaten.

And I'm not the one here taking the horrible attack on Lara, and using her attack as political fodder to support their Islamophobia and hate. Talk about insensitive jackasses using the misery of others to justify their hate. It's appalling and pathetic, this occurring in this day and age in America.

Listen you dumb biatch you said you were "glad she was all right" not that 'she was all right'! Quote me right!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Listen you dumb biatch you said you were "glad she was all right" not that 'she was all right'! Quote me right!

and from KY glad you know she's all right. Again when in America have 200 men of any religion banned up and sexually attacked a woman? Tell us again how great Egypt is compared to the rest of Muslim countries!

On behalf of the reporter and all women GFY!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and from KY glad you know she's all right. Again when in America have 200 men of any religion banned up and sexually attacked a woman? Tell us again how great Egypt is compared to the rest of Muslim countries!
On behalf of the reporter and all women GFY!

it's an impossible arguement for her to win.

so expect a "Nah, I think you are full of ****" response

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

it's an impossible arguement for her to win.

so expect a "Nah, I think you are full of ****" response

That's not the argument I made, though, is it?

And you wonder why I think you are full of ****, and call you on it?