Visualizing Obama Spending Cuts

[Riot]

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Oh, geez, the numbers you post have validity - everyone else's are just numbers.

No. That's not the point. Nobody is debating the debt numbers. We've all posted the same numbers. The debate here is about who increased that debt.

For example, it's ridiculous and false to say Obama increased the debt "this" much, when billions of those monies spent in 2009-2010 during his administration were not monies he approved and spent.

Billions were approved by Bush - the wars, the first stimulus, TARP, etc - all that spending was created by Bush, but those monies were not all spent and done with in the last 5 weeks of his administration. Obama couldn't have recalled spending those monies if he'd wanted to, it was passed law, it was set those monies would be spent even if McCain had won. And that was a Bush II spend.

So look at Obama's spending during his administration, but you cannot take the billions spent in 2009 and 2010, due to first stimulus, TARP, bank bailouts, Bush's war commitments, etc and blame Obama (or McCain if it were McCain) for that. That's crazy.

[Princess Doreen]

[quote=Riot;752303]

No. That's not the point. Nobody is debating the debt numbers. We've all posted the same numbers. The debate here is about who increased that debt.

For example, it's ridiculous and false to say Obama increased the debt "this" much, when billions of those monies spent in 2009-2010 during his administration were not monies he approved and spent.

Billions were approved by Bush - the wars, the first stimulus, TARP, etc - all that spending was created by Bush, but those monies were not all spent and done with in the last 5 weeks of his administration. Obama couldn't have recalled spending those monies if he'd wanted to, it was passed law, it was set those monies would be spent even if McCain had won. And that was a Bush II spend.

So look at Obama's spending during his administration, but you cannot take the billions spent in 2009 and 2010, due to first stimulus, TARP, bank bailouts, Bush's war commitments, etc and blame Obama (or McCain if it were McCain) for that. That's crazy.

Oh, sure, let's drag out the "Let's blame Bush" chestnut. Guess Bush didn't inherit a tanking economy when he took office and then get hit with the 9/11 disaster 8 months into office?!~

Should the projected 2011 deficit be blamed on Bush? Obama is going to balance the budget by trimming $1.1 trillion over 10 years.

The numbers don't wash.

[Antitrust32]

Printhess...

there is really no use when it comes to debating with Riot... the bigoted hater of all things America.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Printhess...

there is really no use when it comes to debating with Riot... the bigoted hater of all things America.

Please quit picking on Riot. Riot isnt a Bigot but a Bimbo. All other people are hateful according to Riot.

[Nascar1966]

[quote=Princess Doreen;752319]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, sure, let's drag out the "Let's blame Bush" chestnut. Guess Bush didn't inherit a tanking economy when he took office and then get hit with the 9/11 disaster 8 months into office?!~

Should the projected 2011 deficit be blamed on Bush? Obama is going to balance the budget by trimming $1.1 trillion over 10 years.

The numbers don't wash.

Riot"s favorite saying "It is all Bush's fault".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Oh, sure, let's drag out the "Let's blame Bush" chestnut.

Uh, yeah, well we will when some try to blame Obama for the deficit caused by Bush starting 2 wars, the first stimulus, and TARP

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Uh, yeah, well we will when some try to blame Obama for the deficit caused by Bush starting 2 wars, the first stimulus, and TARP

Didnt Obama say he was going to send the troops home during his campaign? Sure looks like the troops are home. Actions speak louder than words. Im counting the days until November 2012 get here. Hopefully the Obama circus will come to an end.


Lots of promises made, still lots of work to be done:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...amas-promises/

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Uh, yeah, well we will when some try to blame Obama for the deficit caused by Bush starting 2 wars, the first stimulus, and TARP

Um well hasnt the deficit gone up under Obama? Obama has been Pres for two years now.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Um well hasnt the deficit gone up under Obama? Obama has been Pres for two years now.

Yes, I already brought up that point with the amount the deficit has gone up, but RIOT says it's all Bush's fault.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Yes, I already brought up that point with the amount the deficit has gone up, but RIOT says it's all Bush's fault.

It is alway Bush's fault if you ask Riot. Two years into his term and it is still all Bush's fault.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Yes, I already brought up that point with the amount the deficit has gone up, but RIOT says it's all Bush's fault.

yeah, he had eight years to eff everything up, go figure that obama hasn't fixed it after two.
it's not all bushes fault, it's not all obamas fault, when times were good it wasnt all due to clinton. it's so funny that those defending obama blame the last guy, and the guys defending the last guy see no reason to avoid blaming obama
oh, hilarity, thy name is politics.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Yes, I already brought up that point with the amount the deficit has gone up, but RIOT says it's all Bush's fault.

No, I did not say that Doreen.

What I said was you have to blame deficit due to Bush on Bush, and what Obama spent on Obama.

But you can't blame Obama for the carryover deficit, the lasting legacy, from the Bush spending. And that's the vast majority of our deficit

[Riot]

I did not post this response. I think it is Doreens.

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, geez, the numbers you post have validity - everyone else's are just numbers.

9/11 and building up the military that Clinton dismantled to balance the budget cost a pretty penny.

Despite what anyone else says, I applaud Bush for going into Iraq. If he hadn't, what kind of powder keg would we be dealing with today with that Hitleresque nut job still in power?!~Repubs pandering to the left during the 2nd half of the Bush administration and buying into Democratic reckless spending philosophy.

You tell me what items made up the rise after 11/08. I'd say it's just some more reckless spending on the backs of the American tax payer.

We should get the hell out of Afghanistan - talk about a worthless cause. Fly the drones, take out the poppy fields, weapons, terrorists and bring the soldiers home. They are dying needlessly, and there doesn't seem to be any Democrats crying about it like they did with the war in Iraq.

I feel the sorriest for the youngest generation - they are going to be paying dearly for the debt that is accumulating exponentially with no end in sight. It has to stop. There has to be some brakes on this runaway spending train.