NFL HoF

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

There are, generally speaking, few baseball players who deserve to get in that don't (Bobby Grich and Lou Whitaker excepted), but there are also a massive amount of players in the baseball HOF who have no business being there, more so than the football version. Maybe massive is too strong a word, but there are at least 20 players in the current baseball HOF who I would argue don't belong. I'm looking at you, Orlando Cepeda.

LOL Lou Whitaker

[slotdirt]

LOL all you want, but the only players above him in WAR for position players that aren't in the HOF are either active (Pujols, Chipper Jones, ARod, Thome), did roids or otherwise cheated (Pete Rose, Bonds), or played in like 1884 (Bill Dahlen). 56th all-time when compared to replacement over the course of his career, higher than guys like Duke Snider, Manny Ramirez, Brooks Robinson, Willie McCovey, Eddie Murray, and Roberto Alomar, to name a few. Sandwiched between future HOF-er Derek Jeter and current HOF-er Al Simmons.

Alan Trammell is underrated and deserves to be in the HOF, but the fact that Lou Whitaker got dropped off the ballot after one year and Ryne Sandberg was easily enshrined is truly one of the biggest travesties in the history of the BBWAA.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

LOL all you want, but the only players above him in WAR for position players that aren't in the HOF are either active (Pujols, Chipper Jones, ARod, Thome), did roids or otherwise cheated (Pete Rose, Bonds), or played in like 1884 (Bill Dahlen). 56th all-time when compared to replacement over the course of his career, higher than guys like Duke Snider, Manny Ramirez, Brooks Robinson, Willie McCovey, Eddie Murray, and Roberto Alomar, to name a few. Sandwiched between future HOF-er Derek Jeter and current HOF-er Al Simmons.

Alan Trammell is underrated and deserves to be in the HOF, but the fact that Lou Whitaker got dropped off the ballot after one year and Ryne Sandberg was easily enshrined is truly one of the biggest travesties in the history of the BBWAA.

Pete Rose should be in the HOF

[slotdirt]

Agreed.