This is my problem

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I don't think he'll win the Eclipse if the above horses do as well as they SHOULD. If they don't, then he deserves it as much as any of them. Wouldn't you agree?

I agree Cajun, but I have a feeling that no matter what happens Barbaro wins the Eclipse Award for top 3 year old.

[randallscott35]

If Bernardini or Jazil can win the Travers and the Breeders Cup Classic they could make it very interesting. (throw in a Haskell and they might get it.)

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I agree Cajun, but I have a feeling that no matter what happens Barbaro wins the Eclipse Award for top 3 year old.

I don't think he will if Bernardini runs as well as he's supposed to. I wouldn't imagine Jazil getting the Eclipse, but I can see Bernardini winning if he doesn't turn out to be a bomb.

[Kasept]

We had this discussion with Haskin and Steve Crist on ATRAB. We all agreed there was potential for a three year old like Bernardini, or now Jazil, to end up Horse of the Year if they won the BCC and assorted important 3yo stakes while Barbaro gets the Sophomore Trophy...

Originally Posted by Kasept

We had this discussion with Haskin and Steve Crist on ATRAB. We all agreed there was potential for a three year old like Bernardini, or now Jazil, to end up Horse of the Year if they won the BCC and assorted important 3yo stakes while Barbaro gets the Sophomore Trophy...

I would love to see a horse like Jazil or Bernardini win the award before Barbaro. Dont get me wrong, I like Barbaro but I dont think he derserves the eclipse award just yet. He might win by default since there really isnt any clear cut outstanding 3 year old at the moment. But if someone steps up and wins a couple of big ones then that horse should win it before Barbaro.

At this point only Bernadini could beat him. Thast because he never stomped on Bern, they never met. Jazil would really have to run the table and I find that highly unlikely with his running style and the fact that the races will now shorten up.
If bern were to win the Travers and also win a race in the fall he could get it, but Barb looks like the only other horse who would win it and I think he will, deservedly so. He was so good, and you cant hold the injury against him.

[Exceller]

Bernardini wins the Jim Dandy and Travers and Bernardini is going to be 3yr old of the year as long as he puts in a good showing in the BC Classic. You have to remember Bernardini could be undefeated going into the BC Classic.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Bernardini wins the Jim Dandy and Travers and Bernardini is going to be 3yr old of the year as long as he puts in a good showing in the BC Classic. You have to remember Bernardini could be undefeated going into the BC Classic.

COULD being the key word to that sentence. His connections did the right thing by resting him and skipping the Belmont.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

COULD being the key word to that sentence. His connections did the right thing by resting him and skipping the Belmont.

That is the point though. Some people say if he wins he still won't be 3yr old of the year. I say if he does he gets the Eclipse, if he doesn't win the two big ones at Saratoga he can't beat Barbaro without a BC Classic win. Right now I think he has as good a shot as anyone at winning the BC Classic.

I think that no matter what happens Barbaro wins the award. What is Discreet Cat comes on and wins a couple of races. Does he win the award? We all agree that Barbaro wasnt beating much down in Florida and he ran a HUGE in the Derby. But Bernardini ran huge in the Preakness. I think Bernardini can make it close, but Barbaro wins it.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Bernardini wins the Jim Dandy and Travers and Bernardini is going to be 3yr old of the year as long as he puts in a good showing in the BC Classic. You have to remember Bernardini could be undefeated going into the BC Classic.

Exc,

Bernardini was beaten in his career debut.. 4th as I recall.. Gulfstream. Very green and a rough start. Won't be undefeated, but will be 2-2 in stakes.. So he's got that going for him... which is nice..

[31lengths]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Exc,

Bernardini was beaten in his career debut.. 4th as I recall.. Gulfstream. Very green and a rough start. Won't be undefeated, but will be 2-2 in stakes.. So he's got that going for him... which is nice..

Great caddyshack ref.