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Old 01-17-2011, 10:20 PM
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for the most still and stoic jock riding today and a very deliberate long, slow whip technique.
Must have a great rotator cuff.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:20 PM
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I really thought Gomez should have gotten the award. He didnt win any NYRA jockey titles this year but he did win some big races in 2010.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:13 PM
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Well deserved..great rider and a gentleman...a terrific ambassador for the game.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:33 PM
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I thin Dominguez is a good rider, but seriously he was less deserving of both Gomez and Velazquez in my opinion, his main strength was the earnings title, but he needed 300 more mounts than Velazquez to do it and 700 more mounts than Gomez, he had 5 Grade 1 wins to JV's 13 and Gomez's 10. I know JV rides Pletchers so naturally he's going to have more Grade 1 opportunities on live horses, but taking JV out of the picture than Gomez won The Dubai Sheema, The Foster, The Whitney, The United Nations and 3 Breeders Cup races including the Classic, JV won 2 and Ramon 0, riding titles are all fine and dandy, but seriously, is winning riding titles when you are riding the favorite 98% of the time really that difficult? I would wager that there is not a jockey in North America who would have rather had the year Ramon did than Gomez or Velazquez. JMO
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:48 PM
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I thin Dominguez is a good rider, but seriously he was less deserving of both Gomez and Velazquez in my opinion, his main strength was the earnings title, but he needed 300 more mounts than Velazquez to do it and 700 more mounts than Gomez, he had 5 Grade 1 wins to JV's 13 and Gomez's 10. I know JV rides Pletchers so naturally he's going to have more Grade 1 opportunities on live horses, but taking JV out of the picture than Gomez won The Dubai Sheema, The Foster, The Whitney, The United Nations and 3 Breeders Cup races including the Classic, JV won 2 and Ramon 0, riding titles are all fine and dandy, but seriously, is winning riding titles when you are riding the favorite 98% of the time really that difficult? I would wager that there is not a jockey in North America who would have rather had the year Ramon did than Gomez or Velazquez. JMO
You know, not every meet is like the inner at the Big A. He did/does pretty well against some deep colonies at Belmont and at Saratoga. The big horses and races will eventually come for him, it's just a matter of time.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:52 PM
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I thin Dominguez is a good rider, but seriously he was less deserving of both Gomez and Velazquez in my opinion, his main strength was the earnings title, but he needed 300 more mounts than Velazquez to do it and 700 more mounts than Gomez, he had 5 Grade 1 wins to JV's 13 and Gomez's 10. I know JV rides Pletchers so naturally he's going to have more Grade 1 opportunities on live horses, but taking JV out of the picture than Gomez won The Dubai Sheema, The Foster, The Whitney, The United Nations and 3 Breeders Cup races including the Classic, JV won 2 and Ramon 0, riding titles are all fine and dandy, but seriously, is winning riding titles when you are riding the favorite 98% of the time really that difficult? I would wager that there is not a jockey in North America who would have rather had the year Ramon did than Gomez or Velazquez. JMO
First of all, Dominguez does not ride the favorite 98% of the time, I believe you know that already though.

More importantly, Dominguez's performance at Belmont and Saratoga solidified his credentials. Between his number of winners and earnings, he had a very strong case to win the award.

Gomez is a great rider but he did nothing special at Monmouth and was an also-ran at Saratoga. Velazquez's success goes as Pletcher's does. No one gets legged up on more live horses than John Velazquez and aside from a four week stretch at Saratoga, it was a typical year for him.

Dominguez deserved the award and simply saying that he shouldn't win because he didn't ride a BC winner is short-sighted. If Dominguez is ever able to develop a relationship with a trainer like JV has with Pletcher (a relationship JV had when Dominguez was still in Maryland) then you can bet his success will be tremendous.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:59 PM
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I am not disparaging Ramon, but how can you say he is not on the favorite the VAST majority of the time? It has to be more than 90% of the time, especially at this time of year, and how can you possibly say Gomez was an also ran at Saratoga, as if he had remotely comparable mounts, please, whatever, Dominguez has his strengths and Gomez has his, primarily winning the big races.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:38 PM
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ramon deserves it because one time i saw him ride a full day of grade 1's at the santa anita breeders cup in california and then made it back for a claiming race at aqueduct the next day at 12:30 pm EST.

...or something like , ride horses- cab to LAX, - plane flight to JFK,
-sleep, -eat and get to the track in the AM while losing 3 hours of time travel.

thats commitment.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:57 PM
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I am not disparaging Ramon, but how can you say he is not on the favorite the VAST majority of the time? It has to be more than 90% of the time, especially at this time of year, and how can you possibly say Gomez was an also ran at Saratoga, as if he had remotely comparable mounts, please, whatever, Dominguez has his strengths and Gomez has his, primarily winning the big races.
Gomez wasn't an also ran at Saratoga.











He was an also ran at Monmouth. On pure ability you can't even compare the two. Dominguez is far better than Gomez. Both guys get the best mounts, the diffference is Ramon wins on them....Gomez....not so much.
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