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[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Why the bleh for Lee? I know very little about him and we are only getting the Rays side down here. You'd think they ruined the Cubs for the next decade if you believe the glowing reports of these prospects.

Even though Lee just turns 21 this year, and still has time to grow. But he just had .705 OPS at Single A this past year. He's very fast, so he can cover a lot of ground at SS. Overall I'm thinking he's just a future version of Larry Bowa, Ivan DeJesus.

Archer looks like the real deal though, and he is the key.

Cubs have been ruined for a long time, but they have other prospects to handle their future.

I'm sure if the Yanks were willing to give up Montero/Romine, Nunez and a decent pitching prospect, the Rays would had jumped on that first.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Even though Lee just turns 21 this year, and still has time to grow. But he just had .705 OPS at Single A this past year. He's very fast, so he can cover a lot of ground at SS. Overall I'm thinking he's just a future version of Larry Bowa, Ivan DeJesus.

Archer looks like the real deal though, and he is the key.

Cubs have been ruined for a long time, but they have other prospects to handle their future.

I'm sure if the Yanks were willing to give up Montero/Romine, Nunez and a decent pitching prospect, the Rays would had jumped on that first.

Thanks.

The Rays minor league system is stocked and they just keep adding to it, but that won't help them too much this year when they won't be able to hit their way out of a wet paper bag. Longoria isn't going to see 10 decent pitches all year, they have nothing to protect him. Starting pitching? Fine. Bullpen?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Thanks.

The Rays minor league system is stocked and they just keep adding to it, but that won't help them too much this year when they won't be able to hit their way out of a wet paper bag. Longoria isn't going to see 10 decent pitches all year, they have nothing to protect him. Starting pitching? Fine. Bullpen?

I kinda (because they are usually overstated) understand the financial issues they have but the tact they are taking surely isnt going to help them attract more fans.

What will be interesting is to see how the Royals mega-stacked system fares in major league terms 2013-2015

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Even though Lee just turns 21 this year, and still has time to grow. But he just had .705 OPS at Single A this past year. He's very fast, so he can cover a lot of ground at SS. Overall I'm thinking he's just a future version of Larry Bowa, Ivan DeJesus.

Archer looks like the real deal though, and he is the key.

Cubs have been ruined for a long time, but they have other prospects to handle their future.

I'm sure if the Yanks were willing to give up Montero/Romine, Nunez and a decent pitching prospect, the Rays would had jumped on that first.

Larry Bowa was a 5 time all star

Montero alone would have been enough you'd have to think. It isnt like Garza is Roy Halladay

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Larry Bowa was a 5 time all star

Montero alone would have been enough you'd have to think. It isnt like Garza is Roy Halladay

If things go like people think it may go, Garza may have been the best starting pitcher available at trade deadline which isn't really saying much will be available at that time. But you're right Garza may be at best a possible #2 maybe #3 starting pitcher. (I don't get the big deal on Nunez anyways. I guess you have to be a Yankee fan) In Garza, you at least have a 27 year old with a few years left on a reasonable contract.

Bowa's 5 All-Star years
.298 OBP, .636 OPS
.334, .711 both career best
.283, .584
.319, .689
.316, .630

Sure this was in the age of the non-hitting SS, but the kid would have to be a defensive whiz to even sniff (along with multiple players declining invitations) to be an all-star with those numbers these days.

[Bigsmc]

Beyond the stats, Garza is great guy to have on your team. He's an intense competitor on the field (sometimes to his detriment), he's very loose on the bench, but has his team's back as he'll be the first one to jump on an umpire or opposing player from the bench.

His new teammates will love him, which I think they can use from the Zambrano debacle the last few years.

[MaTH716]

Busy morning, looking like Manny and Damon to Tampa

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6045200


Vernon Wells to the Halos

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6046548

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Busy morning, looking like Manny and Damon to Tampa

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6045200


Vernon Wells to the Halos

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6046548

Damon

Manny

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Damon

Manny

Manny at 2 mil for the season is almost like a lottery ticket. Besides as long as he isn't a total failure/cancer in the locker room, you would think someone would trade for him at the deadline (that is if the Rays are out of it).