NFL Coaching Changes: Who Should, Who Should Go

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What's unrealistic about thinking a coach who's 0-2 in the playoffs after 8 seasons and went 4-11 with a team that was supposed to win 10+ games this year should be fired? His record and the job he's done this year are abysmal. The only reason he still hasn't been fired is that the owner is a ridiculously cheap prick.

Anyone that thought that team was supposed to win 10 + games this year is delusional.

[ateamstupid]

Ah, so 4-11 is OK and 0-2 in the playoffs in 8 years is acceptable. I can't believe you're even arguing still.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Ah, so 4-11 is OK and 0-2 in the playoffs in 8 years is acceptable. I can't believe you're even arguing still.

2-14
6-10
4-12
4-12
3-13
7-9
8-8
7-9
3-13
3-13
5-11
3-13

Those were the years in order pre Marvin Lewis...post Marvin

8-8
8-8
11-5
8-8
7-9
4-11-1
10-6
4-11

The 12 years pre-Marvin they had 11 losing seasons and one .500 season. The 8 years with Marving they had 2 winning seasons and 3 .500 ones. He didn't kill it, but they were a much better and more relavant team with Marvin. In his first playoff game his starting qb had his knee torn up in the first series. Whatever. These are the facts and the history of the Bengals.


You shut up.

[horseofcourse]

I argue because I take the time to provide facts which are sorely missing on these boards for the most part. Marvin by any honest estimation improved the Cincinnati Bengals in his time with the team from what they were before he came. Go suck on it ateam.

[ateamstupid]

So, once again, because the team is historically bad, he should keep the job ad infinitum despite zero playoff wins in eight years and just an awful coaching job this year. Mediocrity isn't better than suckiness in the NFL. At least suckiness gets you a high draft pick.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So, once again, because the team is historically bad, he should keep the job ad infinitum despite zero playoff wins in eight years and just an awful coaching job this year. Mediocrity isn't better than suckiness in the NFL. At least suckiness gets you a high draft pick.

HiS coaching job last year was tremendous with a largely untalented team for the most part. I can't name their defensive line, I can't name any defensive back on their team off the top of my head. I can name their two overaged psycho wide receivers however, and yeah he is largely at fault for the failures of the team as he is head coach. Once Sam Wyche left the team has stunk. In his 8 years as coach the team was at least relevant at times which they never were the 12 years prior. The great Jets even had to play them in the playoffs last year. That's how good they were!! I'm not simply convinced how bad a coach he really is. I'm simply not as simple a person as you are either. I didn't become a Miami Heat fan after all!!!!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

HiS coaching job last year was tremendous with a largely untalented team for the most part. I can't name their defensive line, I can't name any defensive back on their team off the top of my head. I can name their two overaged psycho wide receivers however, and yeah he is largely at fault for the failures of the team as he is head coach. Once Sam Wyche left the team has stunk. In his 8 years as coach the team was at least relevant at times which they never were the 12 years prior. The great Jets even had to play them in the playoffs last year. That's how good they were!! I'm not simply convinced how bad a coach he really is. I'm simply not as simple a person as you are eiother.

You're an idiot if you can't name any of their DBs. Hall and Joseph are one of the best CB tandems in the league. Odom's a beast when healthy on the DL and Peko's good too. Their roster was way better than 4-11 this year and some of the losses they've had are totally inexcusable.

[horseofcourse]

So yeah, as a Bengal season ticket holder, I would much prefer those 8 years with Marvin than the 12 prior from 1991 to 2002 by a large, large margin in fact.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

So yeah, as a Bengal season ticket holder, I would much prefer those 8 years with Marvin than the 12 prior from 1991 to 2002 by a large, large margin in fact.

So how long does he get to keep underachieving and going 8-8 and winning zero playoff games? 5 more years? 10? Sh it, just make him coach-for-life and get it over with. YOU DON'T GET IT, THE BENGALS NEVER USED TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS AND LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND EVERY 4 YEARS!!!

[dagolfer33]

I think Les Miles would look good filling any of these available positions.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I argue because I take the time to provide facts which are sorely missing on these boards for the most part.