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Old 12-17-2010, 04:44 PM
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First, the cost is $7.4 billion to supplement NY workmans compensation and to cover the responders who were not from New York. And yes - this bill is funded by taking the money from elsewhere.

Of course, more important for the GOP to give billions in estate tax breaks to 6600 wealthy families than deal with helping the heroes of 9/11.

Secondly, these heros are dying of rare and severe cancers of the head, neck, nose, throat, and heart and lung disease. As young men. Those are not "normal occupational injuries" for firefighters, policemen, and ancillary workers (those that spent months at the site digging out the bodies of those who died) NY workman's comp will go beyond broke if they pay this out, so they are fighting WC claims. That isn't supported by the opinions of the doctors treating these men. The 7.4 billion would help cover these men and women's medical bills.

It is appalling and shameful that the Republicans in the Senate have blocked voting on this bill (they are filibustering it, and won't even allow it on the floor to be discussed, let alone voted upon) just for political purposes.

Instead of the GOP's public false outrage at the manufactured, nonsensical slight against Christianity they have made up, about working Christmas season, they should thank god that first responders don't consider working Christmas Eve and Christmas day a "slight against Christianity". GOP jagoffs. I was a paramedic for 10 years, and not one of these GOP jagoffs deserve the sacrifice any first responder would make for them or their families.

Jon Stewart did his whole show on this last night, including having 4 dying NY first responders on his show. Mike Huckabee was also on to promote his children's Christmas book, and Stewart went after him, too - and Huckabee had no good answers for the GOP obstructionism, either.

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O.K. 7.4 BILLION is chump change to our Congress now-a-days. I agree. Outside of people who willingly take jobs in the NYPD and FDNY,(and they have to COMPETE for those jobs) and others who responded right away, whom ARE the heroes in this case, others who came were doing it out of the goodness of their heart and a feeling of wanting to help. Agree? Part of being a hero is ignoring the consequenses of your actions, right? Now I was watching this nightmare on the tube like most people on here. I'm maybe 170 miles away. Anyone with half a brain (or less) should know that there was some pretty nasty stuff floating around in the air. I mean really nasty stuff that was used in construction in the early 70's. I knew that there were going to be health problems for anyone anywhere near that sh!t. People volunteering to help should have known too. It's not a free payday. A lot of people are out to take advantage of FREE GOVT MONEY. Unfortunately for them WE THE PEOPLE are starting to realize where all of that $$ is coming from. If I went down there to help I wouldn't be asking for anything because I knew the risks involved. Any idiot should have known. City workers who were on the job should get whatever they need. Not so much, maybe, for those who volunteered.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:58 PM
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Now I was watching this nightmare on the tube like most people on here. I'm maybe 170 miles away. Anyone with half a brain (or less) should know that there was some pretty nasty stuff floating around in the air. I mean really nasty stuff that was used in construction in the early 70's. I knew that there were going to be health problems for anyone anywhere near that sh!t.
Yeah. None of those police or firemen should have run into the WTC as the upper floors burned, dodging the splatterings of bodies hitting the sidewalk outside, trying to save lives. None of them should have spent days digging hoping for survivors, or months digging through the rubble trying to recover part of a foot, a tooth, a wallet, so a loved one could be identified. They should have known better. They should have quit on the spot as their rigs pulled up to the building. Refused to enter. Too bad you weren't there to tell them not to do it. The site should have been left as is with a huge fence around it. It's just part of their job to give their health and lives for the ungrateful and arrogant, and how dare they want their workmans comp - WC paid at the high rates of the most dangerous jobs in the world - to pay for the massive medical problems they contracted doing their job, giving 110%.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:09 PM
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Yeah. None of those police or firemen should have run into the WTC as the upper floors burned, dodging the splatterings of bodies hitting the sidewalk outside, trying to save lives. None of them should have spent days digging hoping for survivors, or months digging through the rubble trying to recover part of a foot, a tooth, a wallet, so a loved one could be identified. They should have known better. They should have quit on the spot as their rigs pulled up to the building. Refused to enter. Too bad you weren't there to tell them not to do it. The site should have been left as is with a huge fence around it. It's just part of their job to give their health and lives for the ungrateful and arrogant, and how dare they want their workmans comp - WC paid at the high rates of the most dangerous jobs in the world - to pay for the massive medical problems they contracted doing their job, giving 110%.
First of all who's not getting their workman's comp? Rangel?

7 billion between 20K responders (7 responders for every person who died) comes to 350K a person. And again why not go after the money that funded the attack. You know those 'rare muslims' making things bad for the majority.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:11 PM
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Riot, please read my post again. Those 1'st responders deserve all the help they need. They went in knowing the risks. Everyone of them would do it again. I'm talking about giving $$ to people who went in after the fact as VOLUNTEERS. NYS is broke and needs all the federal help it can get. Thank you America in advance.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:16 PM
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Riot, please read my post again. Those 1'st responders deserve all the help they need. They went in knowing the risks. Everyone of them would do it again. I'm talking about giving $$ to people who went in after the fact as VOLUNTEERS. NYS is broke and needs all the federal help it can get. Thank you America in advance.
Let me put a face on it for you. A friend of mine from college. He was so happy to pass all the tests and live his dream as a member of the FDNY.
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