Scorpion to turf,George to Classic

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

He may have a slight chance, but it is a huge gamble. Why not go into the race that suits your horse's style best and the race that your horse is proven in on the biggest day of racing in the year?

Bernardini is a very, very special horse. I can't believe the connections want to run the talented George against him instead of in the mile. That must have been one heck of a workout on the dirt that he had...

There is nothing to be gained by winning the mile. I am sure the Coolmore-Darley rivalry has a little to do with it too.

The dirt workout had nothing to do with it. They were going with him once Dylan Thomas didn't handle it. Sounds like they were going to have a BCC horse no matter what.

It is a sad irony that George Washington was bred by the Jacksons of Barbaro fame. I can see Barbaro and Bernardini fighting it out in the Classic. It is just a vision never to be made real, of course.

[King Glorious]

I'm still not understanding how people are saying that the Mile would be the best race for him because it's on his best surface and distance. Did I miss his failed attempt at 10f on the dirt? How do people know that he's not a better dirt runner than turf and that 10f in an American style race won't be right up his alley?

This isnt a bad move at all. His stud fee isnt going anywhere but up if he wins the Classid. If he loses then it isnt going to decrease at all. I want to see him on the grass but I dont know how he will be on dirt. Apparently he worked very well on the dirt the other while working with 5 other horses. I think we might be surprised by his dirt performance.

[pmayjr]

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

Originally Posted by pmayjr

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

Could be. I mean take a real close look at the Classic contedars outside of Bernardini. Lava Man is awesome in Cali but he has yet to prove he can do well outside of the state. Invasor lost a couple days of training due to a cold and he is coming off a real long layoff. Not to mention, it took everything he had to hold off Sun King. Contrary to popular belief, this isnt a real strong group.

[repent]

I like the move.
winning the BCM does not do a lot to his breeding value.
winning the BCC puts him in Giants Causeway territory.

can he run on dirt?
who knows.
no reason to think Sakhee would act on dirt, and he ran lights out.
every reason to think Hawk Wing would move up on dirt, and he never ran a step.
same can be said for Nebraska Tornado, Oratoria, and others.

its probably NOT going to work, but its a sportsman's move.


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[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

I don't know. All I know is that the Mile would have done nothing for him as I said a long time ago and others are now coming around to understanding. I do think that he's more of a 10f horse than 8f here in the States though. The kinds of horses to watch out for when they are shipping over for the Mile are the French horses. Horses that win the top miles in England have historically sucked in the BC. No winner of the Sussex or QE II have ever won it. The only winners of the Mile that won a group I/II 8f race in England were Miesque, Ridgewood Pearl, and Barathea and of the three, only Barathea was an English trained horse. All of that history was against GW winning the Mile. Horses that do well in the French 8f races have always fared pretty well in this race. Pay extra attention to Librettist and also Araafa if he comes.

[tycharles01]

Mile gets

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