The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There you go again connecting things that arent really related. The US deficit is primarily from spending too much, not from not collecting enough. Bush spent like a Democrat which was his primary downfall.

There you go again, misstating what I said. Giving massive tax cuts isn't spending. It's income reduction. Two wars and the largest Medicare entitlement program ever is spending.

BTW, the Dems of the past 60 years are not the party of spending. You might do a reality check on some of your assumptions.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

There you go again, misstating what I said. Giving massive tax cuts isn't spending. It's income reduction. Two wars and the largest Medicare entitlement program ever is spending.

BTW, the Dems of the past 60 years are not the party of spending. You might do a reality check on some of your assumptions.

I didnt misstate anything. As I said the tax cuts arent the reason there is a deficit, it was spending. Did you miss the part where i said Bush spent a lot?

The Democrats of the last 2 years have spent at a record smashing pace.

What happened 60 years ago is hardly relevant

[SOREHOOF]

Congress does the spending, not the Prez. For the last 2 years it has gotten completely out of control. The Dem led Congress has spent like drunken shopaholics with a stolen credit card on Black Friday.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Congress does the spending, not the Prez. For the last 2 years it has gotten completely out of control. The Dem led Congress has spent like drunken shopaholics with a stolen credit card on Black Friday.

Really? Care to itemize that? I think you'll find the reality different than the right-wing screaming talking points.

[Riot]

I didnt misstate anything. As I said the tax cuts arent the reason there is a deficit, it was spending. Did you miss the part where i said Bush spent a lot?

The majority of our deficit is clearly due to the tax cuts. It's money we had to borrow, with interest, to pay for the routine things we were paying for before the tax cuts. With no additional spending, Bush put us in the hole with the tax cuts.

Reagan created a deficit. Bush I created a deficit. Bush II put us in the poorhouse. My eyes have been opened regarding the GOP and their false "economic responsibility" rep.

That was before the additional spending of the two unfunded wars, before the largest Medicare entitlement. Yeah, the Republicans are spendy buggars, and the worse thing is they used the credit card and ran it up to limit.

You are the one getting specific and detailed about semantics, so let's be specific.

The Democrats of the last 2 years have spent at a record smashing pace. What happened 60 years ago is hardly relevant

It would be so helpful if you would not casually change my words and meaning. I am not referring to what happened 60 years ago, I said look at the entire past 60 years, and yes, the GOP is the party of deficits and spending, and the Democrats are clearly not.

Yes, it matters, when people such as yourself continue to misstate the factual truth about who is the party of spending. And then worry about semantics.

Yes, the end of the Bush presidency and the beginning of Obamas was a huge spend - kind of necessary due to this little looming depression, don't you think?

I wouldn't blame Obama for continuing what Bush initiated regarding stimulus spending. Most of what has been "spent" by the "Democrats" (in reality both Bush and Obama) is being repaid, and a great majority of the stimulus funds remain unspent. The true cost is only about 1/3 of budgeted initially, with most of the loans to business anticipated to be repaid with interest to 85 or 90%

I realize that you boil everything down to "Democrats Suck, It's Always Their Fault" but that gets really tiresome when it's not remotely reality-based.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

The majority of our deficit is clearly due to the tax cuts. It's money we had to borrow, with interest, to pay for the routine things we were paying for before the tax cuts. With no additional spending, Bush put us in the hole with the tax cuts.

Reagan created a deficit. Bush I created a deficit. Bush II put us in the poorhouse. My eyes have been opened regarding the GOP and their false "economic responsibility" rep.

That was before the additional spending of the two unfunded wars, before the largest Medicare entitlement. Yeah, the Republicans are spendy buggars, and the worse thing is they used the credit card and ran it up to limit.

You are the one getting specific and detailed about semantics, so let's be specific.



It would be so helpful if you would not casually change my words and meaning. I am not referring to what happened 60 years ago, I said look at the entire past 60 years, and yes, the GOP is the party of deficits and spending, and the Democrats are clearly not.

Yes, it matters, when people such as yourself continue to misstate the factual truth about who is the party of spending. And then worry about semantics.

Yes, the end of the Bush presidency and the beginning of Obamas was a huge spend - kind of necessary due to this little looming depression, don't you think?

I wouldn't blame Obama for continuing what Bush initiated regarding stimulus spending. Most of what has been "spent" by the "Democrats" (in reality both Bush and Obama) is being repaid, and a great majority of the stimulus funds remain unspent. The true cost is only about 1/3 of budgeted initially, with most of the loans to business anticipated to be repaid with interest to 85 or 90%

I realize that you boil everything down to "Democrats Suck, It's Always Their Fault" but that gets really tiresome when it's not remotely reality-based.

Talk about lack of reality...