The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Far be it from me to praise Obama but hasn't there a lot of complaining by the left that the GOP wasn't willing to work with the President? And now that he is compromising, the left howls at Obama in discontent?

You're ignoring that the GOP hasn't compromised in 2 years, and the GOP still hasn't compromised one whit, while Obama compromises before negotiations begin, then does it again. Compromise takes two sides. The GOP has yet to step up in two years.

Yes, the left is quite fed up with Obama giving in over and over again to the GOP, and he'll face a progressive primary challenge if he doesn't turn it around.

Scuds: Bush's tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 got passed in the first place because the compromise with the Dems was the sunset date on the taxes.

We're broke. All the tax cuts should expire. We're in a recession. If anyone gets a tax cut, it should be the lowest earners, not the richest 2% in the country. That is so beyond absurd it's unbelievable. That tiny tax increase will provide 700 trillion to lower the deficit over 10 years. We need that money.

I find it amusing reading about the unnamed liberals in the House threatening to not honor the Senate and Presidents deal. Their love of the progressive agenda and hatred of "the rich" are so great they they are willing to be obstructionist toward their own President and with seemingly little regard for the middle class and unemployed they supposedly give a damn about.

That makes no sense. The more progressive are threatening to obstruct their President because not because of your imagined and absurd "hatred of the rich" (that's hilarious - you guys are good at playing victims, aren't you?) but because the President threw our deficit under the bus with the extension of tax cuts for the richest Americans, he put out that he'd give that up before negotiations even began (which infuriated his base), and the Pres tied unemployment benefits to the tax cuts, when the party majority absolutely wanted it kept separately.

Just going by what these "unnamed liberals" (they are not anonymous) Democrats have said about it in public.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

You're ignoring that the GOP hasn't compromised in 2 years, and the GOP still hasn't compromised one whit, while Obama compromises before negotiations begin, then does it again. Compromise takes two sides. The GOP has yet to step up in two years.

Yes, the left is quite fed up with Obama giving in over and over again to the GOP, and he'll face a progressive primary challenge if he doesn't turn it around.

Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary you continue to promote falsehoods.

The GOP didn't compromise in this deal with the White house? Uh sure they didn't.

Obama has given in to the GOP time and time again? On what exactly?

The liberal mindset is that you aren't compromising unless you are capitulating.

Nothing would be better for the GOP and worse for the Demorats than a primary challenge for Obama from someone MORE liberal than he is.

[Riot]

Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary you continue to promote falsehoods.

Excuse me? I suggest you pay a little more attention to politics on a daily basis. You're obviously clueless as to what the Republicans have been doing - and not doing - for the past two years. You want to know what exactly that is? Try looking at the Senate voting record for the past two years.

You think the GOP has been compromising for two years? You there there is overwhelming evidence of this? BAWAAAHAAAAA Go ahead - produce it.

And you still haven't been able to produce any economists to support your absurd contention that unemployment benefits don't put cash into the economy, don't immediately help the economy, don't prevent loss of jobs (for grocers, etc).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me? I suggest you pay a little more attention to politics on a daily basis. You're obviously clueless as to what the Republicans have been doing - and not doing - for the past two years. You want to know what exactly that is? Try looking at the Senate voting record for the past two years.

You think the GOP has been compromising for two years? BAWAAAHAAAAA

But Obama gives them too much?

So The GOP blocks everything and yet Obama bend over for them?

I guess (if it were true) that the GOP strategy was a good one?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But Obama gives them too much?

So The GOP blocks everything and yet Obama bend over for them?

I guess (if it were true) that the GOP strategy was a good one?

Yup. That is true, it is exactly what Obama has been doing. He gave away single payer for the health bill, that angered his base, and last week, when he proactively came out and said, before negotiations, that he'd extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, his base went crazy. Don't forget one of his biggest campaign promises was not to extend that. Period.

BTW, this "deal" Obama made with the Senate may yet fall apart. All tax bills must come first from the House, anyway. Pelosi told Obama that some of her members are definitely not on board. There are GOP senators starting to publically defect on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, in favor of deficit reduction. The progressive wing of the House wants to hold the line at 1 million for tax cut extensions, period.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yup. That is true, it is exactly what Obama has been doing. He gave away single payer for the health bill, that angered his base, and last week, when he proactively came out and said, before negotiations, that he'd extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, his base went crazy. Don't forget one of his biggest campaign promises was not to extend that. Period.

BTW, this "deal" Obama made with the Senate may yet fall apart. All tax bills must come first from the House, anyway. Pelosi told Obama that some of her members are definitely not on board. There are GOP senators starting to publically defect on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, in favor of deficit reduction. The progressive wing of the House wants to hold the line at 1 million for tax cut extensions, period.

He gave away single payer? LOL. I guess you forgot that the obamacare debacle passed by a slim margin after buying off the skeptical. Single payer had no chance. Zero.

He said he would pass all the Bush tax ententions last week? Really? Did you see this on a wikileaks cable?

He has broken a lot of campaign promises but that isnt anything new for any politician. They say things to get elected and then once in office do things to stay elected. Hardly a big deal. How is Guantanamo working out?

If this deal doesnt get done it will be squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats. The GOP compromised and there is a fair deal that helps everyone, at least for a little while. Pelosi is a gift to the GOP that keeps on giving. She gave them the last election and is poised to give them the next one too. All in the name of redistribution!!!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He gave away single payer? LOL. I guess you forgot that the obamacare debacle passed by a slim margin after buying off the skeptical. Single payer had no chance. Zero.

He said he would pass all the Bush tax ententions last week? Really? Did you see this on a wikileaks cable?

He has broken a lot of campaign promises but that isnt anything new for any politician. They say things to get elected and then once in office do things to stay elected. Hardly a big deal. How is Guantanamo working out?

If this deal doesnt get done it will be squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats. The GOP compromised and there is a fair deal that helps everyone, at least for a little while. Pelosi is a gift to the GOP that keeps on giving. She gave them the last election and is poised to give them the next one too. All in the name of redistribution!!!

pelosi = free gop votes..instead of empowering her still[ gutsiest move ive ever seen mav]they should be acting like she was the problem and exile her to
the most limited access possible. but they dont and wont..more free votes for gop..keep up the good work!! lol

[Riot]

He gave away single payer? LOL. I guess you forgot that the obamacare debacle passed by a slim margin after buying off the skeptical. Single payer had no chance. Zero.

Single payer was overwhelmingly supported by 70% of the public at the start of the healthcare debate.

Then the lies started about "death panels".

He said he would pass all the Bush tax ententions last week? Really? Did you see this on a wikileaks cable?

You really don't pay much attention to politics on a daily basis, do you?

Actually it was well before that. Here's the quote from November 6th:

"The White House signaled Wednesday that President Barack Obama is ready to cut a deal on the Bush-era tax cuts — accepting a temporary extension of the cuts for the wealthiest Americans to win renewal of tax breaks for middle-class taxpayers."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44990.html and elsewhere.

If this deal doesnt get done it will be squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats.

Not in the eyes of his base. We'll see.