MAR FIGHT: Stewards hand down rulings/fines

[gaut10]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

And, while Castellano's action was careless, no horse went down and no one got hurt. Calvin may have won the race - maybe not.

As to the other jockeys who didn't fare well, that doesn't factor into the debate. Calvin is supposed to Mr. Churchill. He had 8 shots at it both days and couldn't nail a win. Isn't he expected to do better at CD than other jockeys? He went in Friday with 7 0-0-0.

But, you're right - let's wait and see how he handles the CD meet. Maybe he can keep his title of "one track jockey".

what would it take? A major spill and 2 guys being dumped for it to be serious! There's a reason javi was taken down. there arent different levels of being reckless!

i was merely adding clarity and substance to your argument about BC weekend and the supposed decline.

Friday...Ack Ack--2nd
bc mar...3rd
Who says he is Mr. Churchill? The media and fans do. All i am saying is he hasnt asked for that. who cares if he is a "one track jockey," most jocks are no track jocks. the great ones separate themselves in this area.

He had very little support at Toga and had a bad meet which byk pointed out several times on ATR which i suspect fuels part of your argument. Personally, i do not think he is a great jock, but i do respect him and the honesty he brings to his owners.

who knows, there may be some truth to his decline, but i dont think anyone really cares about the midget wrestling incident except pansies and espn types.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by gaut10

what would it take? A major spill and 2 guys being dumped for it to be serious! There's a reason javi was taken down. there arent different levels of being reckless!

i was merely adding clarity and substance to your argument about BC weekend and the supposed decline.

Friday...Ack Ack--2nd
bc mar...3rd
Who says he is Mr. Churchill? The media and fans do. All i am saying is he hasnt asked for that. who cares if he is a "one track jockey," most jocks are no track jocks. the great ones separate themselves in this area.

He had very little support at Toga and had a bad meet which byk pointed out several times on ATR which i suspect fuels part of your argument. Personally, i do not think he is a great jock, but i do respect him and the honesty he brings to his owners.

who knows, there may be some truth to his decline, but i dont think anyone really cares about the midget wrestling incident except pansies and espn types.

OK - last go around on this subject.

Please don't put words in my mouth. What happened was "serious", but it wasn't catastrophic. The stewards are there for a reason as someone else pointed out. Jockeys know that and I'm pretty sure they agree to abide by that and not take frontier justice in their own hands.

And, Please don't assume to "add clarity and substance" to my argument. You're perfectly free to do it to your own. You disagree with me and I with you - pure and simple.

I already posted CB's race record for the two days. It's in one of my earlier posts.

I'm sure CB hasn't demanded any accolades, but he sure lives off the ones he's been given or else he wouldn't have displayed the level of arrogance he had on Friday.

4 - 64 this year and an even worse record last year. His one claim to fame at Saratoga 2009 was his win on Rachel.

I'm no pansy, but I sure can recognize bad behavior. CB showed absolutely no concern for the owners and the horses he was to ride in later races - even later in the jocks' room when supposedly he went at it again with Javier. I know if I was an owner of one of the horses he was going to ride later on, I'd sure want him off that horse. You don't think his actions may have factored into Tell A Kelly running a crap race?

I don't wish ill on Calvin. I can only go by what he's been doing lately, and there definitely is a pattern of decline. Maybe he can pick his game back up, but he's no spring chicken and the younger guys are getting the hype.